Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?

redrum

@hepps Yeah or use @RogerCooper's conversion thread. Just not sure anyone would volunteer to update them but if they would or at least consider it then it could be helpful.

Hepps

@redrum True. Just thought there are probably some decent maps that have gotten lost after the dreaded crash of 2016. Was just a thought.

alkexr

@hepps said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

the dreaded crash of 2016

Did I miss something?

Hepps

@alkexr Ask Prastle one day when you have a couple of hours.

redrum

And a few drinks...

prastle

@redrum gigglez Let's not bring up the past Still causes shudders in old lobby players

prastle

@alkexr Also if someone still has a copy of Global Conquest? (I think it was called.) It had random placement setup in a Risk style. @Cernel will recall and possibly still has a copy.

CrazyG

You can do something like create a 50% chance for a unit to appear based on a condition. This could work for weather too but it takes a lot of triggers. If you had 3 possible weather effects occuring in every territory, you need 2 conditions and 3 triggers per territory.

You can create a 50% chance for a brigand to appear in a territory. What you currently cannot do is have exactly 3 brigands total appear, and those three go to totally random territories. (at least not for a decent sized map, too many conditions to check)

You can jerry-rig a bit of randomness with triggers, but it becomes really hard to do on a large scale due to complexity.

@prastle said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

Also if someone still has a copy of Global Conquest? (I think it was called.) It had random placement setup in a Risk style. @Cernel will recall and possibly still has a copy.

This only works at the start of the game, its difficult to repeat it.

prastle

@crazyg kk was just recalling. Do you still have a copy?

CrazyG

I had it at one point. Is it missing?

prastle

@crazyg I don't see it in the repo anymore oh well.

Hepps

@prastle said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

@redrum gigglez Let's not bring up the past Still causes shudders in old lobby players

@prastle I have copied this statement to 3 external hard drives... in the event I need to bring it out as proof to stop a scotch fueled rant.

prastle

@hepps Ah I was reffering to the 2016 crash

Hepps

@prastle Yes I know... I am keeping this quote as proof that you once said lets not bring up the past. :face_savouring_delicious_food:

prastle

@hepps did you copy all old maps since mine ext died?

Hepps

@prastle Not sure what I have... I still have all the engine versions going back to 1.8.0.9

prastle

@hepps engine versions don't matter its what maps did you save?

beelee

@prastle said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

@crazyg I don't see it in the repo anymore oh well.

maybe Roger has it ?

prastle

@beelee nope just checked
I guess we hope @LaFayette ( who made original) or @Cernel who did some work on it has a copy

alkexr

@crazyg said in Random number of units placed randomly at random turns?:

What you currently cannot do is have exactly 3 brigands total appear, and those three go to totally random territories.

You can. You place units with 50% chance on a fake territory, named x_1, x_2, ... etc. Interpreting this as a binary number, now you have a totally random number between 0 and 2^n - 1. Then each territory gets a number, and a condition checks if this number is equal to our random number, and if so, places a brigand. Repeat 3x. Number of triggers required is O(Territory * Number of units to spawn).