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    PbF/PbEM Changes - Your opinion counts

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    • RavilleR Offline
      Raville @RoiEX
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      @RoiEX When system ask email to set a game also asked our password that its supposed to be secret, so how can I trust the engine or system to confide my password? Somebody can use my password for hackjing or do something? Before in the old system just our email was enough to game, but since last changes this little detail (that really is a very big one!) make my game out of this PBEM system. Please review about that detail and go back to the secure old system about emails and passwords (that weren't needed then). thanks

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      • RoiEXR Offline
        RoiEX Admin @Raville
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        @Raville
        You shouldn't trust some random application to handle your password, however because triplea is open source you could check the source code on your own and notice that we don't use the passwords for anything else than authentication.
        And if your email provider requires a password we can't just simply not require one and expect it to work, so I don't really get your point.

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        • RavilleR Offline
          Raville @RoiEX
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          @RoiEX Thanking you for answering, what I mean is that when PBEM menu asked to play by email when login it requires to write your email and password, in the before or old system it didn't! I don't think its correct to give your personal password to any system at all. That's what I mean. Why don´t keep the old PBEM system in that sense (just our email, NOT our email password). Did you get my point? Thanks and cheers.

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          • RoiEXR Offline
            RoiEX Admin @Raville
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            @Raville
            I get what you're asking for, but I don't think there exists an old version not requiring a password, at least for the 3 years since I joined the project.

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              redrum Admin @Raville
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              @Raville As @RoiEX mentions, TripleA has always required a password for PBEM. Without a password, TripleA wouldn't have any way to be able to send emails from the email account that you specify.

              TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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              • RavilleR Offline
                Raville @redrum
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                @redrum so sorry, any email can be send and go into any mail box, they don't need password to go in. Same should be, as it was in old version with PBEM, email passwords are personal only, TA PBEM has nothing to do inside of email boxes, just sent info and results! Its my point and meaning which I told to @Deltium and @prastle in last Tournament cause don't trust any site to give my mail; I created an exclusively gmail account to game PBEM but was late to use it, so only MARTI dice results came into my box, all rest was manual. Thanks and greets.

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                  Raville @Raville
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                  • redrumR Offline
                    redrum Admin @Raville
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                    @Raville I think you are misunderstanding. You don't need passwords for people that you are sending emails TO (if I send you an email, I don't need your password) but you do need the password from the email account you are sending FROM. TripleA doesn't have its own email server/account so sends emails from the player's account which is why you need to put in the email/password of whatever email provider you want to send emails FROM.

                    TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                      Raville @redrum
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                      @redrum TA server should just send information to gamers, doesn't need our mails passwords and box to send that information, system just send to gamers what's need to as results, info, etc. same as MARTI dice. We don't send game info but TA PBEM system just send it... Do am I wrong? All is outside private boxes to avoid hacking.

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                      • RavilleR Offline
                        Raville
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                        But not problem as I created a PBEM personal mail account just to game PBEM under such conditions, thanks & cheers.

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                        • redrumR Offline
                          redrum Admin @Raville
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                          @Raville That would be ideal but there are some technical challenges as save games are much larger than dice results. It also has never worked that way and has always used player's individual email accounts for sending the save games. It could potentially be changed in the future but I think that's probably outside of what @RoiEX was looking to do in these changes.

                          My advice at this current time is if you don't want to have TripleA send emails from your personal email account then:

                          1. Create an email just for TripleA
                          2. PBF intead of PBEM so it uses your forum account rather than your email account
                          3. Manually save the game and email it to your opponent

                          TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                          • RoiEXR Offline
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                            The biggest problem with using a "global email" is that if we did that without any authentication, one could use our service to spam another ones email account and create something like a dos attack.
                            So in any case we'd need authentication, which might defeat its purpose already.

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