Making RISK within TripleA - Help Requested

SlendyMcTendies

Hello everyone!

I'd like a bit of assistance with my idea. I'd like to make the game play more like RISK. A breakdown of what exactly I'm trying to do follows:

I like TripleA and it's mechanics regarding economy and combat. The dynamic between ground, air, and sea units is a very cool layer of depth that RISK does not have.

However, I (and my friends) do not like how territories are pre-selected. We would like to have a way to select territories at the beginning of the game like you would in RISK. I would also like to make it so that players can select their capitol after territory selection finishes (to account for not historically accurate territories).

I know how to edit territory properties, such as production units, victory city, and capitol location. But I need help with these last two things before the idea I have in mind can truly come to life.

Thank you in advance to anyone and everyone who's willing to lend a hand!

TheDog

@slendymctendies
I too like random start territories.

This has a mix of fixed Capitals and random territories.
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3146/the-shogun-official-thread

You can turn off the Territories Are Assigned Randomly and place them manually, so more historical in Map Option before the Game start.

So on planet earth you could have have a faction called London and it would have as its capital London and as many random territories as you like.

There are a lot of comments in the xml, search for "random", it will give you a good start.

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A Fantasy map with all random territories.
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2467/settlers-fallen-empire-official-thread

If you edit this in the xml

<property name="Territories Are Assigned Randomly" value="true" editable="false">

and change the false to true you will be able to manually choose your territories, like in the first map.

SlendyMcTendies

@thedog Thank you! I will be sure to study the file so I may implement it properly!

TheDog

@slendymctendies
What time period are you going to do for your map?

SlendyMcTendies

@thedog World War 2.

I'm using the "Path to Victory" map since it has global territories, just like RISK.

SlendyMcTendies

If there's a way to completely detach or otherwise disable the requirement for players/factions to have a capital territory, I would be grateful to know how to do that as well.

beelee

@slendymctendies I think all players need a capital but you can give them an impassable territory for one

TheDog

@slendymctendies
This map is a lot smaller in code than the Settlers: Fallen Empire and so might be easier to follow, but it was my first published random map and so the comments might be weak.

https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2399/settlers-age-of-tribes-official-thread

You can have two xml within the same map and

have Capitals/Fixed and Random territories (like The Shogun)
have Random territories (like Settlers: Age-of-Tribes)

Just in case you dont know, because a territory has

<option name="capital" value="none"/>

does not mean it is fixed location, this code is to help the AI aim for a Victory City/centre.

In your case both xml would be almost the same, but the fixed capital code would be in one and not the the other.

SlendyMcTendies

@beelee After looking through "The Shogun" I found how they detached the necessity for Capitals (and edited to fit my game):

<variableList>
	<variable name="AllPlayers">
		<element name="Germans"/>
		<element name="Russians"/>
		<element name="Japanese"/>
		<element name="Americans"/>
		<element name="Chinese"/>
		<element name="British"/>
		<element name="Italians"/>
		<element name="French"/>
    </variable>
</variableList>

<playerList>
	<!-- In turn order -->
	<player name="Germans" optional="false"/>
	<player name="Russians" optional="false"/>
	<player name="Japanese" optional="false"/>
	<player name="Americans" optional="false"/>
	<player name="Chinese" optional="false"/>
	<player name="British" optional="false"/>
	<player name="Italians" optional="false"/>
	<player name="French" optional="false"/>
</playerList>

<attachmentList>
<!--Remove Capital Requirement-->
	<attachment foreach="$AllPlayers$" name="playerAttachment" attachTo="@AllPlayers@" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.PlayerAttachment" type="player">
		<option name="retainCapitalNumber" value="0"/>
		<option name="retainCapitalProduceNumber" value="0"/>
	</attachment>
</attachmentList>

After doing some testing, gameplay proceeds as normal with no players/factions controlling their capital. This is what I will use, seeing that territory selection in itself is going to be a nightmare. Maybe I'll revisit Capital selection some other time, right now I just want a working concept

SlendyMcTendies

@thedog I got the random/manual territory selection to work!

Now I just have to re-balance the production values of certain territories to make it fair.

This effectively finishes my "proof of concept". However, there are a few more things that would make it complete:

"Objectives" - AKA "Continent Bonuses" - to augment PU gain when controlling an entire Continent
Automated "Victory" Announcement
Automated Politics (Alliances/War Declarations/Neutralities without "Edit Mode" - and usable by the AI)

TheDog

@slendymctendies
The Shogun has #2 and #3.

#2 Automated "Victory" Announcement: Search for
"GO NOTIFICATIONS for all players of an impending clan political allied Victory"
also see file notifications.properties
and
"GO VICTORY" will be just underneath it in the xml.
and see file objectives.properties

#3 Automated Politics is not simple. AFAIK The Shogun is the only xml/map to have foreach code for Politics having hundreds of lines of code instead of thousands.
Search GO POLITICS
Search "AllPlayers less one CLAN" this block of code is needed for Politics
You will also need to populate politicstext.properties

#1 As to Continental Objectives download Ebbe's WW2 Oil and Snow
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2700/ww2-oil-and-snow-1st-ed-new-map-release
This has national objectives, but can easily be changed to global objectives for all.

Happy coding.

RogerCooper

@slendymctendies If you don't have capitals on the map, the AI will not be aggressive. I suggest designating high value territories as capitals for a player that does not do anything.

SlendyMcTendies

@rogercooper The capitals still technically exist, they're just owned by a "Null" player (Do-Nothing AI) by default and the other players are not required to own a capital to keep producing units (like in RISK).

The AI have still been playing and being aggressive against opponents, but they tend to act weirdly towards Neutrals. The political system is something I'm still working on and figuring out.

This isn't really meant to be played with AI, but it functions well enough right now.

SlendyMcTendies

@thedog How do I make the VC requirement adjustable?

I see how the victory condition is checked in your examples with a static value of 11, but I'd like to make it adjustable in the map options between 11 and 21.

RogerCooper

@slendymctendies Here is the code from the Pact of Steel 2 which documents many properties.

    <!-- victory options -->
    <property name="Projection of Power" value="true" editable="true">
      <boolean/>
    </property>
    <!-- format of "<alliance> <Name of Victory Condition>" -->
    <property name="Axis Projection of Power VCs" value="11" editable="false">
      <number min="10" max="15"/>
    </property>
    <property name="Allies Projection of Power VCs" value="11" editable="false">
      <number min="10" max="15"/>
    </property>
    <property name="Honorable Surrender" value="false" editable="false">
      <boolean/>
    </property>
    <property name="Axis Honorable Victory VCs" value="12" editable="false">
      <number min="10" max="15"/>
    </property>
    <property name="Allies Honorable Victory VCs" value="12" editable="false">
      <number min="10" max="15"/>
    </property>
    <property name="Total Victory" value="false" editable="true">
      <boolean/>
    </property>
    <property name="Axis Total Victory VCs" value="15" editable="false">
      <number min="10" max="15"/>
    </property>
    <property name="Allies Total Victory VCs" value="15" editable="false">
      <number min="10" max="15"/>
    </property>
    <property name="Economic Victory" value="false" editable="false">
      <boolean/>
    </property>
    <property name="Axis Economic Victory" value="120" editable="false">
      <number min="0" max="1000"/>
    </property>
    <property name="Allies Economic Victory" value="120" editable="false">
      <number min="0" max="1000"/>
    </property>
    <!-- Triggered Victory is a victory condition set by a trigger, using a condition or national objective -->
    <property name="Triggered Victory" value="true" editable="true">
      <boolean/>
    </property>

TheDog

@slendymctendies said in Making RISK within TripleA - Help Requested:

@thedog How do I make the VC requirement adjustable?

I see how the victory condition is checked in your examples with a static value of 11, but I'd like to make it adjustable in the map options between 11 and 21.

Yes, I would like to do the same, Im not sure you can make a Trigger Victory for POLITICALLY ALLIED using alliedOwnershipTerritories as a variable.

The only way I thought of doing it was to have multiple xmls with fixed VCs and with the VCs listed in the Title of the scenario/map.
eg.
Risk WW2 global 15+vc
Risk WW2 global 17+vc

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For one faction but non allied, Roger has listed the options.

SlendyMcTendies

@thedog @RogerCooper Thank you for this feedback. I think I'm going to go with a dual-victory condition. One if a single player controls 11+ VCs, and one if an Alliance controls 18+ VCs.

This alone should provide decent variety in itself, and obviously things can be tweaked into alternate VC sets.

~~I've also set up a rudimentary Politics system (War/Neutral/Ally) which should more than suffice for its purposes.~~

I've also managed to figure out how to set the number of claimable territories at the beginning of the game and whether it's random or manual selection.

Now I can do some genuine play-testing and get this idea to an official "1.0" state.

Thank you all so much!

EDIT: How do I set it to "Request" a political change to another player? For example, I have this in my "politicstext.properties" file:

German_Russian_Alliance.BUTTON=Offer Alliance
German_Russian_Alliance.DESCRIPTION=Offer alliance with the Russians.
German_Russian_Alliance.NOTIFICATION_SUCCESS=The Russians have ACCEPTED your Alliance proposal!
German_Russian_Alliance.OTHER_NOTIFICATION_SUCCESS=The Germans and Russians have formed an Alliance!
German_Russian_Alliance.NOTIFICATION_FAILURE=The Russians have REJECTED your Alliance proposal!
German_Russian_Alliance.OTHER_NOTIFICATION_FAILURE=NONE
German_Russian_Alliance.ACCEPT_QUESTION=Enter an Alliance with the Germans?

How do I use "ACCEPT_QUESTION" properly?

EDIT2: I think I found it in "Pact of Steel"

beelee

@slendymctendies said in Making RISK within TripleA - Help Requested:

@thedog How do I make the VC requirement adjustable?

I see how the victory condition is checked in your examples with a static value of 11, but I'd like to make it adjustable in the map options between 11 and 21.

I may be misunderstanding, but can't you set the property to "true", which then allows you to modify it in map options ?

SlendyMcTendies

@beelee I could be misunderstanding too. I'll be posting the Git Repository for this map soon so people can help in a more direct manner if they choose to, or if they want to play the map.
I'm currently working on the wiki section.

TheDog

@slendymctendies said in Making RISK within TripleA - Help Requested:

EDIT: How do I set it to "Request" a political change to another player? For example, I have this in my "politicstext.properties" file:

Search for

This block of code at the end of the step sequence means that all players/AI get a chance to ask Politics questions in that step order.

Keep searching for GO Politics to find all politic elements of the code in the xml.

in GO POLITICS ATTACHMENTS
<option name="text" value="Amago_War_@AllPlayers-Amago@"/>
The text value is the variable text that links to the text line in politicstext.properties, they must match(be paired) for it to work.

How do I use "ACCEPT_QUESTION" properly?
This line and similar lines requires a player to answer a popup question.
<option name="actionAccept" value="@AllPlayers-Amago@"/>

In the the above case its for all players, that it applies to, except Amago to answer the question.
The reason why Amago is excluded is because they are asking the question to be answered.