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    Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

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    • wirkeyW Offline
      wirkey Moderators @mattbarnes
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      @mattbarnes said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

      @wirkey The manual says Germany shares tech with Italy (and UK with US) but doesn’t explicitly mention vide versa. Does tech sharing work in both directions?

      (And is it recommended to turn it on or off?)

      Italy gives Germany, UK gives US.
      Most games I play without it, but it can be fun to try it once in a while

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      • ubernautU Offline
        ubernaut Moderators @wirkey
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        @wirkey i think i usually go for special warfare first with either sides shared tech.

        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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          wirkey Moderators @ubernaut
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          @ubernaut said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

          @wirkey i think i usually go for special warfare first with either sides shared tech.

          I don't think Italy needs sw that early so I prefer having them research logistics and production. Germany doesn't need sw either, so they can go for land warfare for example and produce adv artillery by round 4 or 5 and move them to the front quickly

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            ubernaut Moderators @wirkey
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            @wirkey italy and us both feel pretty useless without sw uk too for that matter.

            i do focus on advanced art/tanks tech first for germany, that branch doesnt seem to help italy much.

            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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              wirkey Moderators @ubernaut
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              @ubernaut

              Imo Italy can do pretty good without SW. The only place where it might be useful is Malta. Building some marines early might pay off. Other than Malta my main objective is to get as much units into North Africa as possible. For landings in Syria, Cyprus etc single marines are sufficent and they usually only happen in later rounds.

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                Shonn
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                Special Warfare I perceive as needed from Italy. But definitely not on T1 in general unless the Allied player is a novice.

                Special Warfare also threatens Cairo IF the UK Med-Fleet is not built up, and may force Wavell (or Alexander!) to abandon W.Egypt.

                Main point of S.Warfare is that you can 'add' to an attack to W.Egypt an amount of troopers instead of having to land them first in Lybia @ Tobruk usually.

                Even Germany could make use of S.Warfare admittedly (They can produce marines, sure but S.Warfare is a powerful tech all around) - to retake Copenhagen, to land INF in Leningrad, for ENG units to have some extra omph in Urban territories.

                Not needed - sure - but handy? Certainly.

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                  wirkey Moderators @Shonn
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                  @Shonn
                  My comments were about SW with shared tech. In that case I think it is more important to go for logistics and production before SW with Italy. With UK/US sharing Italy doesn't have the time to research techs which it needs but Germany already has. That is lost time....

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                  • redrumR Offline
                    redrum Admin
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                    It really depends if Italy is focusing on winning the Med to pressure Egypt or supporting Germany and trying to stalemate the Med. If they are being aggressive in the Med then SWF is pretty important to them and is probably 1st-3rd tech even with shared on for the reasons that @Shonn highlights. Otherwise I'd probably push it to a bit later to get techs that help Germany more.

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                      wirkey Moderators
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                      @Hepps Something really strange happens when a Neutral (in our case Sweden) captures a RC. That RC becomes a damaged material...? But you can't repair it and you can't use it for anything.

                      tww Krautz.tsvg

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                      • ubernautU Offline
                        ubernaut Moderators
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                        have you all considered making advanced ac also allow 3 planes to scramble?

                        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                          ubernaut Moderators
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                          also can anyone explain to me how a mech inf gets to 8 attack assaulting a city?

                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                            Hepps Moderators @ubernaut
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                            @ubernaut Post saves

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                              ubernaut Moderators @Hepps
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                              @Hepps https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/24301

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                                LovePlayingAAA
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                                This bug is caused by the wrong implementation of advanced special warfare for mech infantry - I mentioned this a few times here and nobody fixed it.
                                The mech infantry gets +2 when advanced special warfare has been achieved, resulting in 3 + 2 = 5 on attack. City and so on gives special bonus resulting in 8.

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                                  ubernaut Moderators @LovePlayingAAA
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                                  @LovePlayingAAA thanks!

                                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                    mattbarnes
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                                    Hi. Pls can you explain what happens when a mixed force of planes and troops attacks a similar force (with an airfield)? Is there a prior Air vs Air step? Or does Air vs Air only occur when Strat Bombing?

                                    And why do most planes have an Air Attack value but not Naval Fighters?

                                    Thanks.

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                                      Gully
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                                      Air vs Air only happens in Strat-Bomb. (beware, Tactical Bombers can also "Strat-Bomb" Trucks and Material and stuff). When you send Air into enemy territory, it will ask you "bomb" (= damage structures) or "attack" (troops).

                                      Naval Fighters can not escort. That's why they don't have an Air-Attack value. They can only be part of Air-vs-Air when they defend (which is called "intercept" in the game notes).

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                                        ubernaut Moderators
                                        last edited by ubernaut

                                        i think certain minor territories might have a bug with repair fortifications namely thailand attaching save file autosave_round_even.tsvg

                                        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                          Shonn
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                                          Had the same for a Vichy trench in Golden Coast.

                                          Also there is a bug that troopers land anyhow even if the tranny is sank or escapes (Redrum witnessed that firsthand)

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                                            zlefin Moderators
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                                            Have the in-game notes section been updated? I wanted to read in-game how the new vichy france system works, but couldn't find anything for it in there.

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