Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

ubernaut

mattbarnes

Hi. Pls can you explain what happens when a mixed force of planes and troops attacks a similar force (with an airfield)? Is there a prior Air vs Air step? Or does Air vs Air only occur when Strat Bombing?

And why do most planes have an Air Attack value but not Naval Fighters?

Thanks.

Gully

Air vs Air only happens in Strat-Bomb. (beware, Tactical Bombers can also "Strat-Bomb" Trucks and Material and stuff). When you send Air into enemy territory, it will ask you "bomb" (= damage structures) or "attack" (troops).

Naval Fighters can not escort. That's why they don't have an Air-Attack value. They can only be part of Air-vs-Air when they defend (which is called "intercept" in the game notes).

ubernaut

i think certain minor territories might have a bug with repair fortifications namely thailand attaching save file autosave_round_even.tsvg

Shonn

Had the same for a Vichy trench in Golden Coast.

Also there is a bug that troopers land anyhow even if the tranny is sank or escapes (Redrum witnessed that firsthand)

zlefin

Have the in-game notes section been updated? I wanted to read in-game how the new vichy france system works, but couldn't find anything for it in there.

ubernaut

@zlefin they are a bit out of date now.

redrum

Alright, I'll try to look into the following bugs:

BUG: when "advanced mechanization" has been developed, mech inf gets +2 attack and not +1 as stated in manual
BUG: minor territories might have a bug with repair fortifications examples: thailand and Vichy trench in Golden Coast
BUG: troopers land anyhow even if the tranny is sank or retreats
BUG: Neutral (in our case Sweden) captures a RC and that RC becomes a damaged material

@zlefin And yes the in game notes are a bit out of date. v3 changes are all detailed in the first post of this thread.

ubernaut

@redrum not sure if it's intended or not but if an air transport gets hit in the first round of aa the paratroopers also land. just thought id mention it since it could be related to 3rd item in your list.

colin

I had an issue where I tried to place materials in a factory in Calcutta but it said there was no factory there. All of India was conquered and then liberated, in case that may have something to do with it

The save is here, I didn't think to save it before the end of the turn unfortunately:
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1392/tww-3-0-0-4-ubernaut-ax-vs-colin-al/1067

ubernaut

got a strange error on a save file it doesnt seem to effect the same but it reoccurs whenever you quit a live game the host sees this error:

good one

triplea_1392_tha44.tsvg

bad one

triplea_1392_chi44.tsvg

Jul 21, 2019 10:45:44 AM games.strategy.engine.framework.startup.launcher.ServerLauncher lambda$launchInNewThread$2
SEVERE: Unrecognized error occurred: Exception on remote, if this is a repeatable error please make a copy of this savegame and report to:
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/new
java.lang.RuntimeException: Exception on remote
at games.strategy.engine.message.UnifiedInvocationHandler.invoke(UnifiedInvocationHandler.java:54)
at games.strategy.engine.framework.$Proxy23.startPlayerStep(Unknown Source)
at games.strategy.engine.framework.ServerGame.waitForPlayerToFinishStep(ServerGame.java:535)
at games.strategy.engine.framework.ServerGame.runStep(ServerGame.java:423)
at games.strategy.engine.framework.ServerGame.startGame(ServerGame.java:281)
at games.strategy.engine.framework.startup.launcher.ServerLauncher.lambda$launchInNewThread$2(ServerLauncher.java:176)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:748)
Caused by: games.strategy.engine.message.ConnectionLostException: Connection to colin lost
at games.strategy.engine.message.UnifiedMessengerHub.connectionRemoved(UnifiedMessengerHub.java:176)
at games.strategy.net.AbstractServerMessenger.notifyConnectionsChanged(AbstractServerMessenger.java:493)
at games.strategy.net.AbstractServerMessenger.removeConnection(AbstractServerMessenger.java:655)
at games.strategy.net.AbstractServerMessenger.socketError(AbstractServerMessenger.java:672)
at games.strategy.net.nio.NioSocket.error(NioSocket.java:91)
at games.strategy.net.nio.NioReader.loop(NioReader.java:122)
... 1 more

redrum

@colin As I see you realized and edited, the issue is that the flagpoles didn't change back to India and stayed UK which blocks production. I'll have to look at the XML to see if we can add checks for when India is liberated to change the flagpoles back. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other minors that have the same issue when liberated.

@ubernaut Save game seems fine. The error just looks like a disconnection or someone leaving a lobby game.

And wow, turn 44, probably the longest TWW game I've seen.

ubernaut

@redrum its strange tho i only get the error when disconnecting after that point earlier save files do not generate the error when the other player disconnects.

beelee

Trying to figure out how Lend Lease works. Looking at POS I thought I'd need to do something like this:

<property name="Give Units By Territory" value="true" editable="false">
<boolean/>

When I look at territoryAttachments it looks fine. When I go to unitAttachments though only some countries have the "canBeGivenByTerritoryTo" and Russia and US aren't one of them and the only thing I could find on "giveUnitControl" was something that looked as if it had to do with capitals.

What I'm mostly wondering is how russia has only 1 unit per unit type turn into russian per turn. Can that be adjusted to whatever number one wants ? And can different TTys have different amounts ? Say 2 of a specific unit type in 1 TTy and 3 in another per turn ?

Anyway, if anybody wants to clue me in when they get time, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks

redrum

@beelee No, that player property and territory property are used for the minor nation system so minor nation units are given to their major. L&L works just with triggers which add/remove units in specific territories. Here is an example for Russian L&L to China where it gives a tank in Altay.

    <attachment name="conditionAttachmentLLrTA" attachTo="Russia" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
      <option name="directPresenceTerritories" value="Altay" count="1"/>
      <option name="unitPresence" value="russianTank" count="1"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="triggerAttachmentLLrTA" attachTo="China" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
      <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentLLrTA"/>
      <option name="placement" value="Altay:chineseTank"/>
      <option name="when" value="before:russiaEndTurn"/>
    </attachment>
    <attachment name="triggerAttachmentLLrTA" attachTo="Russia" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
      <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentLLrTA"/>
      <option name="removeUnits" value="Altay:russianTank"/>
      <option name="when" value="before:russiaEndTurn"/>
    </attachment>

beelee

@redrum

Great Thank You

ubernaut

@redrum fingers crossed Screen Shot 2019-07-22 at 10.22.59 AM.png

ubernaut

got a new one here:

Jul 22, 2019 1:38:00 PM games.strategy.triplea.ui.BattleStepsPanel setStep
WARNING: Could not find step name:Italy withdraw?

error.tsvg

redrum

@ubernaut That's just a warning that happens sometimes when a battle step that is in the battle pop up is no longer valid based on casualties. Unfortunately, its not easy to fix.

ubernaut

@redrum ok thanks.