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    Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

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    • ubernautU Offline
      ubernaut Moderators @redrum
      last edited by ubernaut

      @redrum engine allows it, at least with brazil

      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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        redrum Admin @ubernaut
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        @ubernaut Interesting. I think a lot of the neutral nation functionality is a bit untested and incomplete as most players don't play with them on. @Hepps would have to chime in to provide background around the intentions of how they are supposed to work.

        TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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        • ubernautU Offline
          ubernaut Moderators
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          should you be able to move a material the round you capture it? engine seems to allow that but also seems to go against all the other rules for waiting a turn after capturing something before you can do anything with it.

          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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            redrum Admin @ubernaut
            last edited by redrum

            @ubernaut No, its an engine bug (player enforced rule). @Hepps confirmed that you shouldn't be able to transport materials the turn they are captured just like you can't move a truck the turn its captured.

            Reference (ran into this same thing in a game vs Gully): https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1284/tww-3-0-0-4-gully-ax-vs-redrum-al/118

            TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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            • ubernautU Offline
              ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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              @redrum thanks thats what i thought @colin will edit unless you want to redo your NC again

              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                zlefin Moderators
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                On amphibious assault with Brazil; iirc something was put in so that all alliable minor nations (brazil, turkey, etc) can do amphib assault.

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                • ubernautU Offline
                  ubernaut Moderators @zlefin
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                  @zlefin seems to make sense Sweden and brazil are both fairly useless without it

                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  • wirkeyW Offline
                    wirkey Moderators
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                    Neutrals should be able to make amphib assaults (with regular inf only). Not sure if it is after some rounds or from the beginning

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                      mattbarnes
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                      Hey, I’m still playing my first couple of games and neutrals haven’t really come into it. What is the experience of others please? Are neutrals often courted through politics? Are neutrals often attacked and so get involved that way?

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                      • ubernautU Offline
                        ubernaut Moderators @mattbarnes
                        last edited by

                        @mattbarnes i like them but their value is debatable

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                          ubernaut Moderators @wirkey
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                          @wirkey thanks 🙂

                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                            redrum Admin @mattbarnes
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                            @mattbarnes Most players play without the neutrals or war only. I don't think the politics around them has ever been properly balanced.

                            TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                              Hepps Moderators @ubernaut
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                              @ubernaut All of the Neutrals are immediately given SWF as soon as they join the war. Otherwise they are all but useless.

                              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                              Hepster

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                              • ubernautU Offline
                                ubernaut Moderators @Hepps
                                last edited by ubernaut

                                @Hepps thanks! 🙂 happy to help devote some man-hours to helping you update the documentation if you need any. 🙂

                                "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                  ubernaut Moderators
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                                  with shared tech should the receiver (us) be able to produce advanced unit the same round the sender (uk) discovers it? or should that not happen until the next turn?

                                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                    wirkey Moderators @ubernaut
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                                    @ubernaut said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

                                    with shared tech should the receiver (us) be able to produce advanced unit the same round the sender (uk) discovers it? or should that not happen until the next turn?

                                    All shared tech should get activated at the end of the receivers next turn. US should be able to buy advanced units the round (!) after UK discovered the necessary tech.

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                                      wirkey Moderators
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                                      about Neutrals: with dozens, maybe hundred of games, I have played not more than two or three with influencing neutrals. What I have done is that each player can choose one or two neutrals from the beginning of the game, just to give it some variety.
                                      And I like to have the options to attack the neutrals, especially while playing Allies. Going through Spain or Turkey can be an option if the other landing spots (Northern Africa, France, Norway) are to heavy defended.

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                                        ubernaut Moderators @wirkey
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                                        @wirkey thanks yeah @colin and i have played two matches now with neutrals active but in the first game we disabled them. i do like the added variety even if their utility is questionable.

                                        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                          wirkey Moderators @ubernaut
                                          last edited by

                                          @ubernaut with influencing neutrals it's just way to dicey for my taste

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                                          • ubernautU Offline
                                            ubernaut Moderators
                                            last edited by ubernaut

                                            seems some minor controlled territories are getting scramble tech buff and some are not:

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