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    Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators @LaFayette
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      @LaFayette Only Bot.... its been 14 years since I could personally host a game.

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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        beelee @Contango
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        @Contango said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

        @Hepps

        Just wanted to point out that I don't think this is unique to your map...

        I noticed the same thing recently on World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition. The units produced in India don't properly transfer over to UK Europe ownership like they normally do.

        This happened with the new stable but was fixed

        https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/6564

        Edit
        was in local mode then

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        • LaFayetteL Offline
          LaFayette Admin
          last edited by LaFayette

          IIRC this functionality has broken a few times before.

          Thank you for the detective work @beelee , the story does not end here though.

          That fix was part of version 19697

          commit b452d48130e3a16185b83ce9208235622ea60aa6 (tag: 2.0.19697)
          Date:   Tue Jun 2 16:53:37 2020 -0700
          

          Bots are currently running 22202:

          version: "2.5.22202"
          

          https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/master/infrastructure/ansible/group_vars/prod2_bot.yml#L1

          It's probably time we move this to a bug report so we don't hijack this thread with debug information and questions. It might not be just a version difference, though still very interesting the problem only happens in bots. @Hepps , can you craft a save game that is just before where you see this working correctly locally and where it does not work when playing on bots? I wonder if you do a local host game, if it works there or not as well.

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          • HeppsH Offline
            Hepps Moderators @LaFayette
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            @LaFayette Can do

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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            • HeppsH Offline
              Hepps Moderators @LaFayette
              last edited by Hepps

              @LaFayette Here you go...

              Local game
              Non issue with local game.png

              Unit issue 1 correct.tsvg

              Lobby game
              Issue with lobby game.png

              Unit issue 2 incorrect lobby bot game.tsvg

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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              • HeppsH Offline
                Hepps Moderators @LaFayette
                last edited by Hepps

                @LaFayette So lastly @prastle was kind enough to do a private host and that works perfectly as well.

                Unit issue 3 Private host correct.tsvg

                So definitely something going on with the Bots

                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                Hepster

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                • HeppsH Offline
                  Hepps Moderators
                  last edited by

                  Any ideas?

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                  • prastleP Offline
                    prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
                    last edited by

                    @LaFayette Bump ... glance at the saves offline and private host work bot does not.

                    If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                      zlefin Moderators
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                      The issue of ownership transfers not happening properly on the bots is likely related to this bug

                      https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/8054

                      which indicates a very similar problem that existed as of 22192, and had disappeared by 22265. The bots currently and for awhile now ran on 22202, whereas most people have the 22294 engine, and most likely did when they were testing it offline. 22202<22265<22294

                      Next time the bots are redeployed may cause the ownership transfer issue to be fixed. (the unrelated issue with carriers would remain).

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                      • M Offline
                        malmessi
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                        Morning, I' a newbie to T.W.War but I have experience in Global and P.T.Victory.
                        I played my first match and I developed IMPROVED DES with Usa, the in teh turn after I attacked a german sub, when I roll I receive an error
                        Immagine.jpg
                        The error is not critical and I can go on but I can't understand why:
                        -defending subs rolls for a 2 and not a 1
                        -mainly... I have IMPR DES so why does the german sub fire first ? he killed my des with no chance for me to win....
                        Tech are clear
                        Tech.jpg

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                          malmessi @malmessi
                          last edited by

                          I have TripleA 2.5.22294 with Java 11.0.6 on a Win8 Pro pc.
                          T.W.War map is 2.8.0

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                            zlefin Moderators
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                            The sub's attack at 2 in that situation is a special ability of the subs in that version. In the first round only, a sub on defense gets an extra roll at 2 to try to kill an enemy dd; and that happens before regular combat rolls, and regardless of the improved destroyers tech. It's separate from the 'first strike' ability which only refers to the regular combat roll by the subs, and whether it happens before regular attacks by other units or not.
                            The description is thus somewhat inaccurate.

                            As for the bug, I can't account for it; I tried to replicate the bug by doing the things you described and did not encounter that error or any other error.

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                              malmessi @zlefin
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                              @zlefin
                              Thank you very much.
                              I have a beautiful manual with amazing graphic but it refers to 2.8 and my opponent started a 3.0 game.
                              Where can I find a 3.0 manual ?

                              I'm looking for opponents to learn this intersting (but hard to learn) game...

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                                malmessi @zlefin
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                                @zlefin said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

                                As for the bug, I can't account for it; I tried to replicate the bug by doing the things you described and did not encounter that error or any other error.

                                The bug is not critiacl, TripleA doesn't stop working, I was scared for the sub defensive roll but I undestood it is a question of new rules to be found and studied

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                                  Hepps Moderators @malmessi
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                                  @malmessi said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

                                  @zlefin
                                  Thank you very much.
                                  I have a beautiful manual with amazing graphic but it refers to 2.8 and my opponent started a 3.0 game.
                                  Where can I find a 3.0 manual ?

                                  I'm looking for opponents to learn this intersting (but hard to learn) game...

                                  I apologize... I have been extremely busy and have yet to work on the revised manual. The change notes for the game should be in this thread at the beginning.

                                  I will update the manual when I have time.

                                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                  Hepster

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                                    malmessi @Hepps
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                                    @hepps said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

                                    @malmessi said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

                                    @zlefin
                                    Thank you very much.
                                    I have a beautiful manual with amazing graphic but it refers to 2.8 and my opponent started a 3.0 game.
                                    Where can I find a 3.0 manual ?

                                    I'm looking for opponents to learn this intersting (but hard to learn) game...

                                    I apologize... I have been extremely busy and have yet to work on the revised manual. The change notes for the game should be in this thread at the beginning.

                                    I will update the manual when I have time.

                                    Don't worry :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                    • wirkeyW Offline
                                      wirkey Moderators @Hepps
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                                      @hepps said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

                                      I apologize... I have been extremely busy and have yet to work on the revised manual. The change notes for the game should be in this thread at the beginning.

                                      I will update the manual when I have time.

                                      I'm pretty sure he is working on GD all the time 😄

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                                        beelee @malmessi
                                        last edited by

                                        @malmessi trevan has a PR to fix the error

                                        https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/9098

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                                        • Barbarossa41B Offline
                                          Barbarossa41
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                                          @hepps, Where can I find any manual? The link in the mod description is giving a 404.

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                                          • ubernautU Offline
                                            ubernaut Moderators @Barbarossa41
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                                            @barbarossa41 i made a self-contained one it's too big for the forum (88mb) but if you want to dm me your email i can wetrasfer it to you. 🙂

                                            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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