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    Screen centering/cycling around map UI idea

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    • C Offline
      Cernel Moderators @LaFayette
      last edited by

      @LaFayette Well, that is very easy to do, though I can do it with the bars more horizontal or more vertical, if preferred.
      skip.png
      skip(black).png

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      • LaFayetteL Offline
        LaFayette Admin @Cernel
        last edited by

        @Cernel Thanks, though the image should match the existing buttons, background color and foreground.

        I'm thinking, not for right now, but as a follow up, it may be really good to classify the look and feels as "dark" or "light" and switch to a "dark" button image when using a "light" L&F. The white button text can be a bit difficult to make out. For now though the buttons should just match.

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          LaFayette Admin @Cernel
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          @Cernel said in Screen centering/cycling around map UI idea:

          While looking/thinking about the image, the padding from the edge of the image to the icon is probably the last ingredient for the image to match the existing set.

          I uploaded the current button images here: https://github.com/triplea-game/assets/tree/master/images/unit_scroller

          If it's of any help, I can get you @Cernel the existing image files in 'xcf' format.

          Of note, the vertical bar in the right hand arrow image should be removed too.

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            Cernel Moderators
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            The file in xcf format I can't see how it can help. If those images where shrunk from bigger raster ones, it would help some getting closer having the original dimensions. Unless this is already good enough:
            unit_skip.png
            And for the vertical bar removal (I was wondering about that), I just flipped the left arrow (that, btw, it is not 40x40 pixels, but 25x39):
            right_arrow.png

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            • HeppsH Offline
              Hepps Moderators
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              There are any number of options...

              I can't fathom how anybody could misinterpret a crescent moon as anything other than rest or skip... but either way... the X is far less clear as an icon.

              Here are some others just to muddy up the water further.

              Stop.png

              Rest.png

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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                Cernel Moderators @Hepps
                last edited by

                @Hepps I like the "zzz" even less than the moon. I like the stop about as much as the X.

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                  Hepps Moderators @Cernel
                  last edited by

                  @Cernel Well the idea here is just to make suggestions...

                  And since an "X" button is pretty much universally accepted as a "close" button it is really the least appealing option of anything.

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                    Cernel Moderators @Hepps
                    last edited by Cernel

                    @Hepps Well, as I said, if not the "X", my preference would, then, go to the open hand symbol meaning alt (that has this meaning since at least ancient Roman times).

                    I would also like just a "OK" or "Skip" writing (or, as said, a check mark).

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                      Cernel Moderators
                      last edited by

                      How about the standby symbol?
                      https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IEC5009_Standby_Symbol.svg

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                      • Black_ElkB Offline
                        Black_Elk
                        last edited by Black_Elk

                        Oh nice just saw this!

                        Gotta say I also find that the crescent moon doesn't make me think immediately of sleep. Perhaps if going for that might try something like this... Its the spell symbol for Sleep from the old Baldur's Gate D&D games.

                        sleep.png

                        Basically like a closed eye. Not sure if that reads in the way you were thinking?

                        I'd take just the word "SKIP" if need be, since that would be very hard to confuse and only 4 letters.

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                          Cernel Moderators @Black_Elk
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                          @Black_Elk Ahah, I thought about it too but didn't dare propose it. I surely like it, but doubt it will be clear to non nerds.

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                            Cernel Moderators @Black_Elk
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                            @Black_Elk That is generally the "sleep" symbol in Baldur's Gate. Also when you rest your party.

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                              Frostion Admin @Black_Elk
                              last edited by Frostion

                              This is great! 🙂 I love the idea about unit stacks.

                              The term "Sleep" and it's moon symbol are already well know to gamers and therefore a good choice. (Didn't we have this discussion years ago?) Anyway, if it is OK for game like Civilization, it will be OK for TripleA.
                              https://i0.wp.com/ladiesgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Civ-6-builders-icons.jpeg

                              PS: It is just a "term". No matter if the map/game intends the unit to go dormant for I hour or 100 years, Sleep just means go inactive until woken up.

                              Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                Cernel Moderators
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                                Ok. I personally hate relating the night to sleep, but since it seems that everyone else likes it I guess go for it. What can I say?

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                                  Black_Elk
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                                  The insomniac icon, just all hella bloodshot beady eyeball hehe. I'm with you I suppose, but yeah I guess it's whatever, MOON, 'that spells moon' and all. Having the feature in any form is killer. Great work

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                                    LaFayette Admin
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                                    Code update is submitted: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/4960, once that is merged then the feature will be included with the next prerelease and live on the next release.

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                                      Cernel Moderators @LaFayette
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                                      @LaFayette That's probably going a nice boost of playability. The cycling didn't works so well, as sometimes it is hard to spot what's being highlighted.

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                                        LaFayette Admin @Cernel
                                        last edited by

                                        @Cernel There are still some issues, see the new bug reports opened. Though, now 'm' will select previous and 'c' will center on current. Hopefully that should help. I hope also the listing of 'units left to move', having a count of unmoved units will be of use.

                                        I've had a lot of problems personally of forgetting to move the random sub or AA gun, with luck the 'space bar' to skip and then trying to zero out the units left to move will greatly reduce the forgotten units. If things go really right, it'll help make TripleA about who makes the fewest mistakes vs who played the better game.

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                                          Frostion Admin @LaFayette
                                          last edited by

                                          @LaFayette
                                          In regards to shortcuts, Civilization uses
                                          Select Next – Period
                                          Select Previous – Comma
                                          for the cycling through units and so does Total War and Age of Wonders series. If TripleA would do the same, I would think it would be more intuitive and make it easy to learn/control for new players.

                                          Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                            LaFayette Admin @Frostion
                                            last edited by

                                            @Frostion Good points. That needs to be balanced against precedent, essentially re-training users to no longer use the 'n' key.

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