Screen centering/cycling around map UI idea
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@Cernel Well the idea here is just to make suggestions...
And since an "X" button is pretty much universally accepted as a "close" button it is really the least appealing option of anything.
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@Hepps Well, as I said, if not the "X", my preference would, then, go to the open hand symbol meaning alt (that has this meaning since at least ancient Roman times).
I would also like just a "OK" or "Skip" writing (or, as said, a check mark).
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How about the standby symbol?
https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:IEC5009_Standby_Symbol.svg -
Oh nice just saw this!
Gotta say I also find that the crescent moon doesn't make me think immediately of sleep. Perhaps if going for that might try something like this... Its the spell symbol for Sleep from the old Baldur's Gate D&D games.
Basically like a closed eye. Not sure if that reads in the way you were thinking?
I'd take just the word "SKIP" if need be, since that would be very hard to confuse and only 4 letters.
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@Black_Elk Ahah, I thought about it too but didn't dare propose it. I surely like it, but doubt it will be clear to non nerds.
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@Black_Elk That is generally the "sleep" symbol in Baldur's Gate. Also when you rest your party.
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This is great!
I love the idea about unit stacks.The term "Sleep" and it's moon symbol are already well know to gamers and therefore a good choice. (Didn't we have this discussion years ago?) Anyway, if it is OK for game like Civilization, it will be OK for TripleA.
https://i0.wp.com/ladiesgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Civ-6-builders-icons.jpegPS: It is just a "term". No matter if the map/game intends the unit to go dormant for I hour or 100 years, Sleep just means go inactive until woken up.
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Ok. I personally hate relating the night to sleep, but since it seems that everyone else likes it I guess go for it. What can I say?
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The insomniac icon, just all hella bloodshot beady eyeball hehe. I'm with you I suppose, but yeah I guess it's whatever, MOON, 'that spells moon' and all. Having the feature in any form is killer. Great work
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Code update is submitted: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/4960, once that is merged then the feature will be included with the next prerelease and live on the next release.
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@LaFayette That's probably going a nice boost of playability. The cycling didn't works so well, as sometimes it is hard to spot what's being highlighted.
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@Cernel There are still some issues, see the new bug reports opened. Though, now 'm' will select previous and 'c' will center on current. Hopefully that should help. I hope also the listing of 'units left to move', having a count of unmoved units will be of use.
I've had a lot of problems personally of forgetting to move the random sub or AA gun, with luck the 'space bar' to skip and then trying to zero out the units left to move will greatly reduce the forgotten units. If things go really right, it'll help make TripleA about who makes the fewest mistakes vs who played the better game.
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@LaFayette
In regards to shortcuts, Civilization uses
Select Next – Period
Select Previous – Comma
for the cycling through units and so does Total War and Age of Wonders series. If TripleA would do the same, I would think it would be more intuitive and make it easy to learn/control for new players. -
@Frostion Good points. That needs to be balanced against precedent, essentially re-training users to no longer use the 'n' key.
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Notable, I found it's pretty tedious to keep 'skipping' units that are on remote islands or AA guns that are not going to be moved. With that, a proper 'sleep' button is useful. So I went with the checkmark icon to represent "skip" and the moon is now for "sleep".
The original nabble forum thread had a moon with some "zzz"'s on it, perhaps that might be a better image: http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/Need-Gfx-for-Unit-scroller-Left-Right-Center-Skip-Icons-tp7591477p7591506.html
I'm curious what people think. Here is a partial screenshot of how the latest unit scroller would look:
Sleep button is being added in PR: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/5036
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@LaFayette I would put a checkmark superimposed to the arrow button under each arrow button, to skip current and move to the next or previous, as opposed to do the same thing without skipping. Then the other button can stay centred underneath.
I still don't like the moon symbol, but I would like a "zzz" even less. By the way, now also the standby icon of Windows is a crescent...
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@Cernel said in Screen centering/cycling around map UI idea:
By the way, now also the standby icon of Windows is a crescent...
That's okay, standby and sleep are synonymous in this context.
The arrow with checkmark is not always accurate as it does not also skip. For example you can move a bomber, if it has movement left, the 'next' + 'previous' will continue cycling to the bomber until you 'skip' with spacebar (or click the checkmark).
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@LaFayette You didn't get what I said. What I meant is that under the two arrows buttons, you already have, you would have another two arrows button, but with also a checkmark superimposed, to skip and move to the next or previous (as opposed to do the same thing without skipping, that you would do by clicking on the arrows without the checkmark). That way, you only remain with the crescent symbol right under the units at the centre. This would also make more sense, as the checkmark button already makes you also move to the next group, like clicking on the right arrow.
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@Cernel Ah, thanks for the clarification. Clicking skip moves to the next group, it's effectively the right arrow + skip. I think the suggestion is to have 4 buttons then instead of 3. I don't see the previous + skip to be really that common/used. When skipping it's pretty much going to be after moving or having skipped the previous unit already. Skip current to re-selecting the previous unit would be a bit odd.
I am really interested if there are thoughts about a wake-all feature. On revised it does not seem to be that necessary, I wonder/suspect maybe on a larger map it could make more sense though, but again maybe not. I suspect it's probably not needed, likely if a unit is to be awaken it is because a transport or enemy unit are adjacent. In those cases it's probably easy to remember when cycling to the transport or if an attack is likely to simply skip that unit for a few turns.
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