TOTAL GLOBAL WORLD WAR II- fusion & clean-up PROJECT

ebbe

oooh still busy with placement/alignment.... feels like zen-budist practice..

Schulz

They don't have to secure pacific convoys because Japan wasn't attacking them.

Cernel

@ebbe Especially since this seems to be a so much very rare case of a map getting territory names right (you even spelled "Rumania" correctly, first TripleA game I see), I really hate to see the name "Benelux". That is a construct that I don't believe existed in a WW2 map or before (let me know if I'm wrong). I took a look at Wikipedia (of course), and it says that the term was invented in 1944 (which is several years after your starting time), but I think anyone will really associate such a name with post-WW2 reconstruction. I don't think I would use it anyways, as I don't feel it is a map name.

I think any time you have multiple countries per territory, you can just name the most important country (you have Switzerland, not Switzerland Liechtenstein), so I suggest calling the territory as "Low Countries" (instead of "Benelux").

Also, technically, "Belgium" is part of the "Low Countries", in a wider sense of the term. Besides, "Netherlands" (like Spain and a others) is a wrongly named country, that should have really been called "Northern Low Countries" since Belgium seceded.

Wondering whether Roma is in North Italy or South Italy. Anyways, North Italy was way more important than South Italy: It should be more than twice the value of South Italy.

ebbe

thanks Schulz & Cernel for your feedback... .. details I appreciate myself too, will be taken into account ; )

ebbe

Schulz: there was minor German (Monsun Gruppe) and italian submarine activity though in the indian ocean , red sea and pacific.... italian sub was even found in Honshu at WW2 end... but yes... minimal appearance ... I rephrase the objective you refer to ; ) https://www.quora.com/Did-German-U-boats-operate-in-the-Pacific

ebbe

Creating "overflow boxes" if many units will mass up in small areas.. like islands, to keep a good overview...! Coming slowly to a finish of the placement chapter... which took me far more time than expected
overflow boxes.jpg

ebbe

HELP REQUESTED: I like to have some feedback on:
a 21st June 1941- scenario starting Production ballance!
( I see many 1940 or dec 1941-maps but I aim this scenarios starting point inbetween...
just 1 day before operation Barbarossa starts )

in the current map I have a AXIS : 90 Versus / versus ALLIES 162...
Somebody here in this forum must have an opion/resources about this..?

GERMANY: 38 (incl. Finland/Slovakia-Hungary/Rumania)
ITALY: 17
VICHY FRANCE: 9
JAPAN: 26 ( incl. Mandsjoekwo)

USA: 50
USSR: 37
CHINA: 15
UK: 24
UK-Pacific 17
Anzac: " 8
Canada: 8
Free French:3

Thanks for any response !

Layout is not finished in example below but I just need a temp change of challenge now...
Stalin allready points Go West ; )
example Western Soviet territories TRIP.jpg

ebbe

Besides I am looking for a as close as accurate/realistic UNITS setup for a 21st JUNE 1941 SCENARIO: based on the AXIS ALLIES GLOBAL MAP ..... the only example I could find is following variant from Johnny on BGG but I see no feedback or reflections on that variant...
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1586479/axis-and-allies-global-1941-variant-setup

otherwise I use the regular AA global setup and spread out the units corresponding to the new territories and actual new battle zones ..... more or less....
thanks....

jkprince

Wow! This is really cool! I see some units that are not familiar to me, like the armored train. What are some other new units you are adding? Also it would be nice to see a screenshot of the Pacific side of the map. Interesting game, I'm excited to play it once it arrives.

beelee

@ebbe said in TOTAL GLOBAL WORLD WAR II- fusion & clean-up PROJECT:

Besides I am looking for a as close as accurate/realistic UNITS setup for a 21st JUNE 1941 SCENARIO: based on the AXIS ALLIES GLOBAL MAP ..... the only example I could find is following variant from Johnny on BGG but I see no feedback or reflections on that variant...
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1586479/axis-and-allies-global-1941-variant-setup

otherwise I use the regular AA global setup and spread out the units corresponding to the new territories and actual new battle zones ..... more or less....
thanks....

Oztea has a 41 setup for the Global game which uses the time frame you want. It's with the "World War II Global" DLs. There's a link in the notes for where it was discussed when he made it.

He generally uses historic info with the obvious adjustments for playability. I kinda remember someone having some good info for the forces at the time. I think maybe it was @RogerCooper ? or maybe Cernel ? I don't recall. I could be wrong too.

Didn't know Midnight had a 41 setup. Maybe I'll add that at some point.

ebbe

@JOSEPH-PRINCE Hej there, still takes some time and for the next steps I will be inviting people to coop for getting there; about extra units: I will not create to many extra units as the map will be overloaded in placement; but my idea now is that besides basic units every bigger player will get a couple of units to flavour the game in historic sense..: like soviet katyusha and armoured train, german Siege train, super Sub and Me- 262 , Type XXI sub.... etc... though limited by auto placement and/or pricing ; ) as on this maps scale ofcourse their influence should be limited....

ebbe

@beelee GREAT !!!!! I 'll dive into it....

ebbe

Another weekly progress: working on comparing sources for a historical & ballanced setup : I changed the starting point to APRIL** 1941; ( I made a 2 months turns: jan-feb/ march-april/ and so on ) as there are still some important little battles taking place with impact on the whole on the west front: like Greece still unoccupied so if keeping of a axis invasion still a factor.... and even more: Iraq and Iran are moving towards the axis... so by this UK first has to secure Iraq and later iran ( together with russia) to secure Persian corridor supplies to USSR. Also the east african campaign is still raging
so italian have units in Abyssinia , Somalia and tiny fleet in red sea.

example setup.png
And by this their oil... as the oil now at game start with flow to the Axis as they "own" the refinery in Iran-Iraq to symbolize economical ties with the Axis. Anyway..... still a lot to do..... besides many territories have a garrison now (inf. with G sign) this is a small non moving unit representing local garrisons and defences. Low roll but still feels better than a empty zones in your rear.. ; ) And Africa will cost a little more effort to conquer.... especially when entering the Jungle center... Also Non-replaceble obsolete units around, (like Light fighters, light armour and Flotilla as smaller naval units of minors or remote Colonial areas ) as allways... any tips remarks welcome..

ebbe

@ JOSEPH PRINCE ( pacific side )!
example east.jpg

Schulz

Wow looks impressive, some thoughts;

-Axis/Allies income distribution looks balanced for Jun 1941 set up. Could you share the incomes of nations with 1942 May set up?

-You could draw circles bigger and Abyssina without touching Red Sea thus giving Italians more options in this area.

-China looks visually bad as it is in Global, I would suggest redarawing it to look more realistic.

-Its better to make Northern Italy capital instead Rome.

-German, Italian, Soviet, Greek, Romanian, Yugoslavian, Syrian, British, Belgian, Dutch, Anzac and American flags are wrong.

ebbe

Hej Schulz... thnxs for your
constructive feedback... I tried to contact you for some more specific replies on your post but now I solve it this way

****-Axis/Allies income distribution looks balanced for Jun 1941 set up. Could you share the incomes of nations with 1942 May set up? - I will once/ if I get there...

-You could draw circles bigger: - All circle areas are urban hot spots/ or historical hotspots and will get all their own over-flow placement boxes on map's edge..(like in old school A&A map )

-and Abyssina without touching Red Sea thus giving Italians more options in this area.**
I think about it .... but as eritrea was part of abyssinia / ethiopia then it would be odd to add the coast to either somalia... or even anglo egypt...

-China looks visually bad as it is in Global, I would suggest redarawing it to look more realistic.:
-China is actually an area that I used a googlemaps for and a historical provinces map of 1939 for... The thing with stratic maps is ofcourse that they are disproportionized.. like europe oversized...

-Its better to make Northern Italy capital instead Rome.
so all captials have a small circle that can hold 1 unit and a overflow box above....

-German, Italian, Soviet, Greek, Romanian, Yugoslavian, Syrian, British, Belgian, Dutch, Anzac and American flags are wrong.****: all the countries you mention have not their national flag but the army sign/roundel, as they are in war at that moment.... these roundels are correct... like syria is vichy french: they have the french flag with the double bladed axe....

but nice to have some critical feedback? are you making maps too?

ff03k64

@ebbe did you draw the map? Or did you adapt it from one of the other maps?

Schulz

You could just call all the coastline area as Somali, actually not much important its just an alternative idea for better usage of Ethiopia other than making it classical doomed to fall Italian territory in r1.

Yes, recently finished my first stand alone new drawn map.

I mean all nations should either use army roundels only or national flags only. They are mixed in here and some roundels are belong to post WWII like Yugoslavia or Greece. And actually national flags looks visually way better.

Hepps

@ebbe Looks great!

The only thing I notice looking at the map is that many of your sea zones correspond to the divisions of land territories. I'm guessing this is intentional on your part... but personally I find it really stagnating to game-play as it just creates blocker moves everywhere. Personal preference I suppose but it is really the only thing that jumps out at me. Otherwise everything else looks really interesting.

ebbe

@ff03k64 : it is a tribute to and fusion of Total War and Global... based on an advanced global map and with some Total War mechanics... I wanted a simple gameplay, but still have oil and terrain types be included...