Main Screen Logo Needed

LaFayette

The logo on mainscreen was added to 2.5. I would like to think that logo is better than nothing for the most part. To the trained eye that gets really bothered by the cut-off drop-shadow, I can see that being really annoying. Just as annoying as seeing an oxford comma misused =D

If/when the main screen is updated further, this thread will be useful, I do like the ideas and images presented.

ubernaut

@LaFayette i do think we are currently diluting our branding the way it is now.

when you say "cut off drop-shadow" are you referring to the outer glow he has around everything?

ubernaut

@LaFayette i do think we are currently diluting our branding the way it is now.

when you say "cut off drop-shadow" are you referring to the outer glow he has around everything?

butterw

Almost anything would be an improvement over the icon used currently (v2.5/pre2.6). The website image looks much better for instance, if the right size is chosen. The old school icon had more style. alt text

Many of the proposals in this thread are also superior to the image currently displayed in the launcher (the aliased TA text in particular is quite ugly). Was there a downgrade from v2.3 ?

Artwork elements are also needed for a new Help > About Triplea dialog.

ubernaut

@butterw i believe when he made the build Lafayette didn't have access to a high-quality version and didn't know i was the one who remastered the OG icon years ago. supposedly an update is coming soon but there was no group decision on that one.

LaFayette

If ya'll can hit consensus and provide the updated logo image, it would be easy to incorporate it.

butterw

@lafayette
There isn't likely going to be consensus about logos.

Possibly there are some cross-platform Java display issues on top of that. I'm using Windows10, 1080p, 125% dpi. The text size is readable but some images don't render well. They are likely upscaled causing the aliased text of logo to look ugly.

Another issue is the app icon.

Simply scaling down a 256x256 pixel image like currently doesn't work on Windows, the most useful icon size is 32x32, with sizes down to 16x16 sometimes used. A simplified/stylised version of the icon that can display well at lower resolutions is very much needed.
Most apps use a large version of their icon for their About window logo.

EDIT:
Here's an example of a dialog with a small app-icon (with transparent background) based on TA text by Frostion:
alt text

ubernaut

@butterw @LaFayette i thought i uploaded the high-quality icon graphics without the ground do you not have that or is the consensus what we are missing?

LaFayette

@ubernaut looks like it is on page 1

@MirkoBruner , would you be able to provide the bottom title as its own image with transparent background? https://forums.triplea-game.org/assets/uploads/files/1605039123046-logo_type_combination.jpg

With and without the sub-title would be helpful. I think the one without subtitle would be great for the website. I'm tempted to try and incorporate the one with subtitle into the game.

MirkoBruner

@lafayette Sure shot. Anywhere I can drop it? Email?
Regards,

ubernaut

@lafayette um are we going to have a vote on this? because i really not a fan of that treatment. no offense @MirkoBruner but for the reasons i stated before which received no counter-argument i do not think we should be moving away from the existing basic branding.

butterw

Path of Assets

@ubernaut Having a vote wouldn't be the silliest thing.

I would add that just like for the flags used in maps, modding the program logo/icons is something anyone can do without the need for programming skills (output should be png).

The main logo is:
TripleA/assets/launch_screens/triplea-logo.png
it has transparent background and a resolution of 211x152 (this isn't a requirement though)

The window icon currently used is:
org/triplea/swing/ta_icon.png (32x32)

For the Windows desktop and taskbar icons you need a .ico file with multiple resolutions (16x16, 32x32, 48x48, 256x256 in 32bit).

LaFayette

As nice as a vote sounds, it's impractical due to time constraints and the delay to get a meaningful vote tally. Feedback is listened to and welcome, just needs to be constructive and somewhat timely.

@ubernaut what are your specific objections regarding using an updated website title?

ubernaut

@lafayette well i think we need to rely on consensus here no one person should be dictating the way forward for this project. not sure why we couldn't just make a poll post give it a week or two to see the results. i think the people who care most would almost be able to cast a vote in that time. i also think we could even give it more time seeing as our releases arent that frequent and we are really only talking about one asset/placement in this case as far as i know.

in regards to the "updated website title" you'll have to point to where that was brought up. not even sure what that means exactly. i thought we were just talking about the start-up screen.

beelee

why vote when you can just dictate instead ?

MirkoBruner

@lafayette said in Main Screen Logo Needed:

vide the bottom title as its own image with transparent background? https://forums.triplea-game.org/assets/uploads/files/1605039123046-logo_type_combination.jpg

LaFayette

@ubernaut "i also think we could even give it more time seeing as our releases "

It's not about time between releases but more "I have time to work on this in the next 3 days, and then after probably not." Getting responses 3 months later just is not workable.

I'm just saying the people that are really concerned are already on this thread and should provide their feedback. If we want to do a poll that is for a couple of days, fine. Will everyone get a chance to give 100% feedback, probably not, and I don't want that open for months on end. Hopefully that makes sense in combination that such feedback needs to align with the available capacity to actually do the work.

ubernaut

@lafayette my suggestion is that we provide a poll regardless of the amount of time available since the swapping of that graphical element is a rather minor change technically.

there was a discussion on the merits of altering our brand but the discussion ended after i made my case.

even if we only get 5 votes on a 24-hour poll, which i would assume the low end of the expected range, it would better represent a community decision than one person at the top imposing their authority. the folks that did vote would obviously represent those most involved.

i suggest that we just make a post with the two alternatives @MirkoBruner and i can restate our cases there as concise replies and let the community decide whatever time limit you feel fits with your schedule. i do appreciate the fact that you represent our entire development resource pool at the moment.

also still not sure what "the updated website title" is in reference to exactly i'm not sure i ever expressed any opinion on that one.

LaFayette

@ubernaut open a thread, make it so.

ubernaut

@lafayette ok so start the post with just the start screen with both my and @MirkoBruner submissions then present my case first as a reply unless you prefer to go first @MirkoBruner .

i hope you understand this is not personal for me @MirkoBruner you obviously are a skilled designer, i do like your style i just don't agree that your treatment is an improvement over the existing thing.