a player asked me if tww is still playable? i havnt seen it on the list of games being played.
@ubernaut i cant remember the last time i saw it being played in the lobby.
@silverbullet playing live is really only good (and required i would say) for playing out the battles the game itself is way too involved to play in real time.
The bugs which make it hard to play in the bots are still present iirc; so it's not played much. At least last I checked (a month ago or so).
@zlefin what bugs?
The one where transfer of unit ownership doesn't work; which is used extensively to support the sub nations in tww (ie egypt, australia). It's the same bug that means people playing global have to edit UK pac's units to change them into british.
I think there were a couple other bugs as well, but I don't remember the details.
@zlefin is that new? never encountered that problem in 1.9
It's comparatively new. It's been around for a year or two maybe. I'm really not sure exactly how long it's been around for.
@zlefin i haven't been able to play tww in about the same amount of time because PBF is broken on mac currently i do seem to remember some bug reports on that (ownership triggers) right after we went to 2 or 2.5 but didn't realize there were any bot specific problems
It's a known and reported issue.
@zlefin cool i guess i didnt know because of my own know and reported issue
I belive a number of issues (one or more: I'm not sure) have practically killed Total World War in the lobby.
It used to be played maybe around once per day.
If it is so, someone who plays the map really needs either to solve the issues or to make a clear case with the developers about what needs to be done. It might just be that what reported has been buried.
I recall @redrum used to be the deus ex machina for TWW.
The map is in High Quality, by the way. Which (I suppose) implies it must not have any major issues...
However, I don't really know, as I don't play it. Maybe @wirkey can tell what's up.
Thx everyone involved!
also @Krautz confirms, it is not playable via Bots atm - workaround seems to be an own VPN-netwark via hamachi.
It's not that it's been buried, it's that it's not 100% definitive what's needed to fix it, and at any rate it's entirely in lafayette's wheel house now, and they're likely busy or something; I've harassed him about it as muhc as I Can, there's no more I can do. The most likely issue imo is that the bots update code system isn't working right, so that the bots haven't actually updated to 22294. The bug was known to occur ~22200, and was fixed. I'm not fully clear on how the 'bots' work, or if they do any of the actual hosting work, or are just rerouting things. If they do some of the actual work, then the bots being on an outdated version would explain everything; especially why it's only a problem on bots but does not affect offline games or directly hosted games.
@zlefin tww december 41
(4:34:02 PM) piko: @silver: the map works, but there is one issue with AC (which is long) and one with minor belligrents changing ownership
(4:34:07 PM) piko: but in all it works
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(4:35:02 PM) SilverBullet: the last post about the problems was 11 months ago
(4:35:35 PM) SilverBullet: and i never see anyone playing in the lobby, one post says it works fine by email
(4:35:50 PM) piko: it was only a bot problem though at the times - seems not the be the case anymore
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(4:35:58 PM) piko: they might have been updated?
(4:36:09 PM) SilverBullet: i dont even see it on my list
(4:36:14 PM) piko: a couple of days I played one game via bot and it worked
(4:36:39 PM) SilverBullet: can you load it in a bot for me?
(4:36:42 PM) piko: except for the ownership change mentioned above
(4:36:43 PM) piko: sure
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(11:31:47 AM) Wassmuss: hey Krautz, is TWW working in a bot, or are the same errors there?
(11:32:28 AM) SilverBullet: its working but with minor bugs im told
(11:32:36 AM) SilverBullet: you can read about it in the forums
(11:32:51 AM) Wassmuss: thx Silver
(11:33:07 AM) SilverBullet: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2909/tww
(11:33:09 AM) SilverBullet: np
(11:34:08 AM) Krautz: only prbl is minors need to be edited since they do not automatical turn into major units, which makes it difficult to move.
(11:40:49 AM) Krautz: true, there is a bug with AC which occurs near sumatra in the beginnig
(11:43:38 AM) Cohen: There are also CVs with 2 Hit Points before tech is reached Wassmuss
(11:43:43 AM) Cohen: in TWW
(11:43:58 AM) Wassmuss: nahhh guys too many bugs
(11:44:00 AM) Cohen: and what Krautz said above - Minors need manual conversion
(11:44:04 AM) SilverBullet: so is that a bug?
(11:44:26 AM) Wassmuss: yeah when you get it before you get the tech it is a bug with the ac
(11:44:27 AM) Cohen: yes