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    • LaFayetteL Offline
      LaFayette Admin
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      Some Thoughts on the Project Board Organization and the goals of the project boards

      How we organize the two boards, feature requests & problems is a bit of an open question.

      Needless complexity is not going to help us, perhaps we should stay firm in keeping in mind what our goals are. Essentially we want to organize the issues/topics so a person (developer) does not have to dig through very long lists of many items & generally does not need to spend much effort to find something to work on.

      A next important goal, if not more important, is enough organization that maintainers can feel like the various lists are not just a mess, that the important items are indeed visible and easy to see.

      It would also be great if average players can look at the lists to see where things are. I think that is a stretch goal.

      With respect to these goals & priorities - we need some organization, we need some prioritization, just enough to make sure that the top important things are obvious.

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      • LaFayetteL Offline
        LaFayette Admin
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        @Panther it might make sense to split up the 'problem tracker' columns a bit. I'm a big fan of stack ranking items too, take a card and compare it with other cards to say whether this one should go before or after another card. Priority of bugs/problems should generally be a calculation of impact multiplied by frequency. Rare bugs that kill/crash games, or very frequent bugs are items to go to the top of the list.

        With that said, we can use columns to help organize items (rather than using labels, or do both). For example, a column of 'rules problems', and perhaps another for 'fix sooner' to represent the high impact problems that are not rules problems.

        @TheDog / @ubernaut , we might want to do similar for feature requests. Things like columns for 'game play efficiency / quality of life', 'map XML features', 'UI enhancements', etc.. That level of organization could very well be overkill and needlessly complex.

        When there is a lot of questions on how to do taxonomy of issues/tickets, I often like to try and simplify it to: "fix sooner" & "backlog", where the backlog is organized such that the top 3rd is roughly equal priority, and bottom two thirds are mostly unorganized and are more a big list (where if that top 3rd is worked down, then items from the big list can then be pushed up and organized a bit more).


        So, lots of "thinking out loud" ideas here. I think we need to try to start moving items on the boards. Once we have stuff there, it might be easier to see a logical way to sort them. Starting with less I think is going to be more. Perhaps starting with just a "fix sooner" and "fix later" list is good. Going more detailed, to capture different types of work items, could be useful too (but at risk of unnecessary sorting/complexity0

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        • ubernautU Offline
          ubernaut Moderators @LaFayette
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          @lafayette sounds good to me

          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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          • LaFayetteL Offline
            LaFayette Admin
            last edited by

            To be a bit explicit, and a small role-call:

            @Panther is going to be organizing the rules related topics.

            @TheDog more focused on the feature requests

            @ubernaut potentially helping on either/both

            We might still need some more help on organizing the (non-rules related) bugs/problems. Overall, perhaps we're already off on a decent start now 😃

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            • ubernautU Offline
              ubernaut Moderators @LaFayette
              last edited by

              @lafayette so i look this over again still not sure i understand what i'm supposed to do but maybe it will make sense once i try it

              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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              • PantherP Offline
                Panther Admin Moderators @ubernaut
                last edited by Panther

                @ubernaut said in Handling Bugs & Features Requests with Github Projects:

                @lafayette so i look this over again still not sure i understand what i'm supposed to do but maybe it will make sense once i try it

                I can offer you to guide you a bit through, once I find some time ...

                Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                • TheDogT Offline
                  TheDog @Panther
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                  I have enter my top 10 Feature Requests and will hopefully keep that topped up with a curated list for the Devs to pick from.

                  Currently it looks like this
                  https://github.com/orgs/triplea-game/projects/9

                  Not sure if people have access to that link so ...
                  ede5057b-f0bf-42d6-a05b-0fca1101a31d-image.png

                  I have ordered the two columns with Top ordered
                  Top=Hard/Long -- Bottom=Easy/Quick
                  hopefully that will help a Dev with limited time.
                  .
                  Currently even I cannot access that link from here
                  https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/projects?query=is%3Aopen

                  As only 2 Projects are listed, @LaFayette please fix
                  9bd94bba-899e-4a79-b4d6-f2f68db11611-image.png

                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                  • LaFayetteL Offline
                    LaFayette Admin @TheDog
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                    @thedog The difference is project can exist at an "organization" level and also at a "repository" level.

                    https://github.com/orgs/triplea-game/projects/ vs https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/projects

                    The repository level projects came first, hence there is that history behind them.

                    I think we probably should prefer org level projects, but I don't have a very strong opinion on that per se. It is confusing though that projects exist at different 'levels' like that. (In part it's an interface issue, should be more clear what is what)

                    With that said, no real recommendations here, just hopefully that clarifies what is going on. Happy to tweak things as would be helpful.

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                    • TheDogT Offline
                      TheDog @LaFayette
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                      @lafayette
                      As GitHub is already hard to navigate for most users, including me, I would prefer if the projects could have a pointer/view to where it currently is now, just like the current problem tracker does.

                      That way when a new user of GitHub looks to get

                      • Releases - download manually
                      • Raise an issue
                      • Look at any Project its all there, or appears to be there

                      https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/projects
                      Appears to more for us users

                      and the 1st link appears move for Devs, well thats my perception.

                      https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                      https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                      • LaFayetteL Offline
                        LaFayette Admin @TheDog
                        last edited by

                        Of note, I see that the 'problem tracker' project appears in both the game-client repo (specifically, triplea-game/triplea) and also at the 'org level', at 'triplea-game'.

                        There's no connotation for me that one is geared for dev's vs users. To some extent, they are geared for both I would say, perhaps more dev's as ideally someone would use the project board as a working board.

                        Releases - download manually

                        With luck this is going to go away to some extent. The release model changing will make the latest release available from the website for download.

                        I would prefer if the projects could have a pointer/view to where it currently is now

                        I don't quite understand what you mean here. Would you mind clarifying?

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                        • TheDogT Offline
                          TheDog @LaFayette
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                          @LaFayette
                          Yes I would like it to be like the 'project tracker' project to
                          appear in both the game-client repo (specifically, triplea-game/triplea) and also at the 'org level', at 'triplea-game', just like the 'problem tracker' project does.

                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                          • LaFayetteL Offline
                            LaFayette Admin @TheDog
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                            @thedog Found it - there was a "link project" option. Should look good now

                            It looks like Github has changed projects a good bit from a couple years ago. Projects in github used to be repository level items (repositories are owned by organizations). Now projects look to be true organization level items with "links" to possibly zero or many repositories. The links create the previous behavior and adds some additional flexibility.

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