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    • C Offline
      crockett36 @TheDog
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      @thedog I did the map with a set of instructions. I followed those instructions and did nothing else. I don't understand anything else. I had intended to go into the program and create a non UHD map, but I haven't got to it yet. I won't be getting to it until July at the earliest. Thank you all for your interest. If you give me instructions, I can follow them.

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        crockett36
        last edited by

        I hate to sound like a noob, but I am. Where would l learn this stuff? What is it?

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        • wc_sumptonW Offline
          wc_sumpton @crockett36
          last edited by

          @crockett36

          The map.yml states

          - {game_name: France Goes First, file_name: uhd_world_war_ii_global.xml}
          

          This is the reason for the problem as UHD World War II Global uses the same xml name

          - {game_name: UHD World War II Global, file_name: uhd_world_war_ii_global.xml}
          

          To correct this, change the xml name on one of the maps. Then correct the yml.

          Cheers...

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          • PantherP Offline
            Panther Admin Moderators
            last edited by Panther

            @crockett36
            Note, that in the directory "maps\games" of France Goes First even the game.xml is called

            "uhd_world_war_ii_global.xml".

            So I recommend to replace the references to the unrelated game (uhd_world_war_II_global) with the name of the map you intended to create (such as france_goes_first).

            So call the xml france_goes_first.xml to be consistent and to avoid the name of a different existing map.

            Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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            • PantherP Offline
              Panther Admin Moderators
              last edited by Panther

              @wc_sumpton , @crockett36

              So what I - out of curiosity - did on my local installation right now was:

              change the map.yml to

              - {game_name: France Goes First, file_name: france_goes_first.xml}
              

              and the game.xml inside maps\games to france_goes_first.xml

              But still - on TripleA 2.5 - the pre-installation of UHD_World_War_II.... was required for France_goes_First to load.
              So I searched for other references and found in line 18802 of the xml ...

              <property name="mapName" value="uhd_world_war_ii_global" editable="false"/>
              

              ... and changed that to

              <property name="mapName" value="france_goes_first" editable="false"/>
              

              ... and that finally allowed me to start "France goes First" on TripleA 2.5 without having that UHD-map installed, too.

              However there are other references to the other map (that don't hurt). Also those squares mentioned above are still present.

              Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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              • PantherP Offline
                Panther Admin Moderators
                last edited by Panther

                @crockett36

                What was your intention?
                Either to create a totally new map "France_goes_first"
                or to create just a different scenario for the existing UHD_World_War_II_Global (in which France goes first).

                In the latter case it would have been enough to add a thus changed xml-file to the maps\games directory of UHD... (provided the creator of that map, @beelee, had agreed).
                In case you - like you did - create a new map its names and references must differ from already existing maps.

                Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                  beelee @Panther
                  last edited by

                  @panther

                  Hi Panther

                  Crockett wanted to make the G 40 map have France go first in turn order. I suggested he use BlackElks UHD map.

                  Idk how the duplicate files showed up. I don't think they're present in UHD Boxes though.

                  The squares that show up seem to imply a missing image ?

                  Idk, it'd probably be best just to start over with the UHD map. Can use Bung's map too for that matter. Rename it correctly and then tweak the turn order. Idk how to get rid of the duplicate files.

                  Pretty sure I removed them and they just popped up again.

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                  • PantherP Offline
                    Panther Admin Moderators @beelee
                    last edited by Panther

                    @beelee said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

                    Crockett wanted to make the G 40 map have France go first in turn order.

                    OK, so a seperate xml would be enough. No need for a (new) separate repo, then.

                    Idk how the duplicate files showed up. I don't think they're present in UHD Boxes though.

                    They are, unfortunately:

                    50634ba1-fdf9-4094-b774-d2a53cce0bfd-image.png

                    The squares that show up seem to imply a missing image ?

                    Yes, looks like the reference to UHD made the images show up. But as this is a seperate map it would need separate images for that.

                    Idk, it'd probably be best just to start over with the UHD map. Can use Bung's map too for that matter. Rename it correctly and then tweak the turn order. Idk how to get rid of the duplicate files.
                    Pretty sure I removed them and they just popped up again.

                    They can be easily deleted from the repo. We need someone with write access to do so, however.

                    Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

                    Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                    • C Offline
                      crockett36
                      last edited by

                      Beelee is correct, I wanted to make another mod that would span different maps. I'll see what I can do. Thank you for the instructions. You guys do great work! I say we triple all of your salaries! You should have a tip jar app somewhere!

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                      • RogerCooperR Offline
                        RogerCooper @crockett36
                        last edited by

                        @crockett36 It is probably not a good idea to use the same file name as an existing map. I will put this my queue of things to cleanup.

                        In general, I think that scenarios that use existing maps should have their own mod. I don't want to presuppose that someone who is downloading a mod wants to have all scenarios that used the same map.

                        In earlier version of TripleA, you could reference the map information for another scenario which I found useful.

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                          BattleshipYamato @Panther
                          last edited by

                          @panther

                          I redownloaded France Goes First and the plain Global 1940 UDH Map and it works again on 2.5.

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                            Panther Admin Moderators @BattleshipYamato
                            last edited by Panther

                            @battleshipyamato said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

                            @panther

                            I redownloaded France Goes First and the plain Global 1940 UDH Map and it works again on 2.5.

                            @battleshipyamato

                            Sure, you can of course try and use this "erroneous workaround" - but this "solution" is part of the problem - as discussed in this topic.

                            A TripleA-map (or module) should never depend on having preinstalled another one. In this case this has been caused by oversights and errors in different files.
                            "France goes First" needs some rework before it should be downloadable from within TripleA.

                            Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                              BattleshipYamato @Panther
                              last edited by BattleshipYamato

                              @panther

                              To clarify:

                              Plain UHD Global was already downloaded when I saw the error for France Goes First. When I tried to load plain UHD Global for 2.5 I got the exact same error.

                              I deleted and redownloaded both maps and the errors for France Goes First on 2.5 disappeared (both still work on 2.7).

                              Update:

                              Even though I just successfully finished a local game with France Goes First on 2.5 with no issues, now I have this error for both France Goes First and plain UHD Global:

                              da20822b-10ca-4ad6-b7a8-1b912b62beb7-Screenshot 2026-04-10 at 10.14.16 AM.png

                              However, both maps still work on 2.7.15133.

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                              • PantherP Offline
                                Panther Admin Moderators @BattleshipYamato
                                last edited by Panther

                                @battleshipyamato

                                That's why I called using it an "erroneous workaround".

                                I recommend to delete the current version of "France Goes First" and redownload it once is has been revised. It simply has not been ready to be added to the 'official' repos and should not be available for download from within TripleA in its current status.

                                Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                                  BattleshipYamato @Panther
                                  last edited by

                                  @panther

                                  Thank you!

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                                  • RogerCooperR Offline
                                    RogerCooper @BattleshipYamato
                                    last edited by

                                    @battleshipyamato I update the repository to use a different file name france_goes_first.xml.

                                    I will also check to be sure that are not other mods with similar problems.

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                                      crockett36 @RogerCooper
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                                      @rogercooper Thank you so much!

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