France Goes First 2.5 not working

[BattleshipYamato]

I’m not sure if this is the right category for this question.

When I try to start a new game of France Goes First on 2.5 TripleA, I get this error message:

Is there anything that can be done about this? Thank you!

[wc_sumpton]

@battleshipyamato

Might be a bad download. My copy works fine. Try removing and downloading again.

Let us know if you need more help.

Cheers...

[Panther]

@wc_sumpton
On 2.5 I got this working only after having installed a map called "UHD World War II Global".

Since when does the installation of a map require the pre-installation of another map? And should this not be noted in the repo, game notes and wherever necessary?

But trying to run it on 2.7.prerelease I get:

On a side note, looking at the repo I notice strange data junk in the map directory, as almost every file there is accompanied by a duplicate ending with a "~". See:

Also visible in the "UHD World War II Global" repo:

So while Github usually does not introduce those they must have been created on someone's harddrive (caused by whatever procedure) before copying the files to the repos. I hope that other repos (maps) are not affected by this.
While this hopefully but most likely does not cause any harm it is unnecessary junk and should be removed before publishing, IMHO.

CC: @RogerCooper

[TheDog]

@panther
Re: The missing image, latest versions of 2.7 has lost the ability to substitute (its a regression) a placeholder square icon on the map. So now it errors like you see, I dont know which version broke this, but Im making a new map with 2.7.15256 and it works with the square substitute placeholder icon.

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15256

[Panther]

Looking deeper I found out that the Map and Repo "France Goes First" has been published without reliefTiles directory. That seems to explain the remarks and optics for 2.5.

[Panther]

@thedog said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

@panther
Re: The missing image, latest versions of 2.7 has lost the ability to substitute (its a regression) a placeholder square icon on the map. So now it errors like you see, I dont know which version broke this, but Im making a new map with 2.7.15256 and it works with the square substitute placeholder icon.

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15256

Thank you. Indeed I can run "France goes First" with 2.7.15256 - even without ReliefTiles-directory and without UHD Global installed.

But on 2.5 I still need to have the map "UHD Global ..." installed before.

[TheDog]

@panther said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

But on 2.5 I still need to have the map "UHD Global ..." installed before.

@beelee
As UHD is your map, any ideas?

[Panther]

Also I doubt that on "France Goes First" (with 2.7) those squares are intended ...:

... but who knows?

[TheDog]

@crockett36
I think this is your map any ideas?

[crockett36]

@thedog I did the map with a set of instructions. I followed those instructions and did nothing else. I don't understand anything else. I had intended to go into the program and create a non UHD map, but I haven't got to it yet. I won't be getting to it until July at the earliest. Thank you all for your interest. If you give me instructions, I can follow them.

[crockett36]

I hate to sound like a noob, but I am. Where would l learn this stuff? What is it?

[wc_sumpton]

@crockett36

The map.yml states

- {game_name: France Goes First, file_name: uhd_world_war_ii_global.xml}

This is the reason for the problem as UHD World War II Global uses the same xml name

- {game_name: UHD World War II Global, file_name: uhd_world_war_ii_global.xml}

To correct this, change the xml name on one of the maps. Then correct the yml.

Cheers...

[Panther]

@crockett36
Note, that in the directory "maps\games" of France Goes First even the game.xml is called

"uhd_world_war_ii_global.xml".

So I recommend to replace the references to the unrelated game (uhd_world_war_II_global) with the name of the map you intended to create (such as france_goes_first).

So call the xml france_goes_first.xml to be consistent and to avoid the name of a different existing map.

[Panther]

@wc_sumpton , @crockett36

So what I - out of curiosity - did on my local installation right now was:

change the map.yml to

- {game_name: France Goes First, file_name: france_goes_first.xml}

and the game.xml inside maps\games to france_goes_first.xml

But still - on TripleA 2.5 - the pre-installation of UHD_World_War_II.... was required for France_goes_First to load.
So I searched for other references and found in line 18802 of the xml ...

<property name="mapName" value="uhd_world_war_ii_global" editable="false"/>

... and changed that to

<property name="mapName" value="france_goes_first" editable="false"/>

... and that finally allowed me to start "France goes First" on TripleA 2.5 without having that UHD-map installed, too.

However there are other references to the other map (that don't hurt). Also those squares mentioned above are still present.

[Panther]

@crockett36

What was your intention?
Either to create a totally new map "France_goes_first"
or to create just a different scenario for the existing UHD_World_War_II_Global (in which France goes first).

In the latter case it would have been enough to add a thus changed xml-file to the maps\games directory of UHD... (provided the creator of that map, @beelee, had agreed).
In case you - like you did - create a new map its names and references must differ from already existing maps.

[beelee]

@panther

Hi Panther

Crockett wanted to make the G 40 map have France go first in turn order. I suggested he use BlackElks UHD map.

Idk how the duplicate files showed up. I don't think they're present in UHD Boxes though.

The squares that show up seem to imply a missing image ?

Idk, it'd probably be best just to start over with the UHD map. Can use Bung's map too for that matter. Rename it correctly and then tweak the turn order. Idk how to get rid of the duplicate files.

Pretty sure I removed them and they just popped up again.

[Panther]

@beelee said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

Crockett wanted to make the G 40 map have France go first in turn order.

OK, so a seperate xml would be enough. No need for a (new) separate repo, then.

Idk how the duplicate files showed up. I don't think they're present in UHD Boxes though.

They are, unfortunately:

The squares that show up seem to imply a missing image ?

Yes, looks like the reference to UHD made the images show up. But as this is a seperate map it would need separate images for that.

Idk, it'd probably be best just to start over with the UHD map. Can use Bung's map too for that matter. Rename it correctly and then tweak the turn order. Idk how to get rid of the duplicate files.
Pretty sure I removed them and they just popped up again.

They can be easily deleted from the repo. We need someone with write access to do so, however.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

[crockett36]

Beelee is correct, I wanted to make another mod that would span different maps. I'll see what I can do. Thank you for the instructions. You guys do great work! I say we triple all of your salaries! You should have a tip jar app somewhere!

[RogerCooper]

@crockett36 It is probably not a good idea to use the same file name as an existing map. I will put this my queue of things to cleanup.

In general, I think that scenarios that use existing maps should have their own mod. I don't want to presuppose that someone who is downloading a mod wants to have all scenarios that used the same map.

In earlier version of TripleA, you could reference the map information for another scenario which I found useful.

[BattleshipYamato]

@panther

I redownloaded France Goes First and the plain Global 1940 UDH Map and it works again on 2.5.