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    • PantherP Offline
      Panther Admin Moderators
      last edited by Panther

      @wc_sumpton , @crockett36

      So what I - out of curiosity - did on my local installation right now was:

      change the map.yml to

      - {game_name: France Goes First, file_name: france_goes_first.xml}
      

      and the game.xml inside maps\games to france_goes_first.xml

      But still - on TripleA 2.5 - the pre-installation of UHD_World_War_II.... was required for France_goes_First to load.
      So I searched for other references and found in line 18802 of the xml ...

      <property name="mapName" value="uhd_world_war_ii_global" editable="false"/>
      

      ... and changed that to

      <property name="mapName" value="france_goes_first" editable="false"/>
      

      ... and that finally allowed me to start "France goes First" on TripleA 2.5 without having that UHD-map installed, too.

      However there are other references to the other map (that don't hurt). Also those squares mentioned above are still present.

      Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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      • PantherP Offline
        Panther Admin Moderators
        last edited by Panther

        @crockett36

        What was your intention?
        Either to create a totally new map "France_goes_first"
        or to create just a different scenario for the existing UHD_World_War_II_Global (in which France goes first).

        In the latter case it would have been enough to add a thus changed xml-file to the maps\games directory of UHD... (provided the creator of that map, @beelee, had agreed).
        In case you - like you did - create a new map its names and references must differ from already existing maps.

        Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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        • B Offline
          beelee @Panther
          last edited by

          @panther

          Hi Panther

          Crockett wanted to make the G 40 map have France go first in turn order. I suggested he use BlackElks UHD map.

          Idk how the duplicate files showed up. I don't think they're present in UHD Boxes though.

          The squares that show up seem to imply a missing image ?

          Idk, it'd probably be best just to start over with the UHD map. Can use Bung's map too for that matter. Rename it correctly and then tweak the turn order. Idk how to get rid of the duplicate files.

          Pretty sure I removed them and they just popped up again.

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          • PantherP Offline
            Panther Admin Moderators @beelee
            last edited by Panther

            @beelee said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

            Crockett wanted to make the G 40 map have France go first in turn order.

            OK, so a seperate xml would be enough. No need for a (new) separate repo, then.

            Idk how the duplicate files showed up. I don't think they're present in UHD Boxes though.

            They are, unfortunately:

            50634ba1-fdf9-4094-b774-d2a53cce0bfd-image.png

            The squares that show up seem to imply a missing image ?

            Yes, looks like the reference to UHD made the images show up. But as this is a seperate map it would need separate images for that.

            Idk, it'd probably be best just to start over with the UHD map. Can use Bung's map too for that matter. Rename it correctly and then tweak the turn order. Idk how to get rid of the duplicate files.
            Pretty sure I removed them and they just popped up again.

            They can be easily deleted from the repo. We need someone with write access to do so, however.

            Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

            Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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              crockett36
              last edited by

              Beelee is correct, I wanted to make another mod that would span different maps. I'll see what I can do. Thank you for the instructions. You guys do great work! I say we triple all of your salaries! You should have a tip jar app somewhere!

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              • RogerCooperR Offline
                RogerCooper @crockett36
                last edited by

                @crockett36 It is probably not a good idea to use the same file name as an existing map. I will put this my queue of things to cleanup.

                In general, I think that scenarios that use existing maps should have their own mod. I don't want to presuppose that someone who is downloading a mod wants to have all scenarios that used the same map.

                In earlier version of TripleA, you could reference the map information for another scenario which I found useful.

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                • B Offline
                  BattleshipYamato @Panther
                  last edited by

                  @panther

                  I redownloaded France Goes First and the plain Global 1940 UDH Map and it works again on 2.5.

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                  • PantherP Offline
                    Panther Admin Moderators @BattleshipYamato
                    last edited by Panther

                    @battleshipyamato said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

                    @panther

                    I redownloaded France Goes First and the plain Global 1940 UDH Map and it works again on 2.5.

                    @battleshipyamato

                    Sure, you can of course try and use this "erroneous workaround" - but this "solution" is part of the problem - as discussed in this topic.

                    A TripleA-map (or module) should never depend on having preinstalled another one. In this case this has been caused by oversights and errors in different files.
                    "France goes First" needs some rework before it should be downloadable from within TripleA.

                    Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                      BattleshipYamato @Panther
                      last edited by BattleshipYamato

                      @panther

                      To clarify:

                      Plain UHD Global was already downloaded when I saw the error for France Goes First. When I tried to load plain UHD Global for 2.5 I got the exact same error.

                      I deleted and redownloaded both maps and the errors for France Goes First on 2.5 disappeared (both still work on 2.7).

                      Update:

                      Even though I just successfully finished a local game with France Goes First on 2.5 with no issues, now I have this error for both France Goes First and plain UHD Global:

                      da20822b-10ca-4ad6-b7a8-1b912b62beb7-Screenshot 2026-04-10 at 10.14.16 AM.png

                      However, both maps still work on 2.7.15133.

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                      • PantherP Offline
                        Panther Admin Moderators @BattleshipYamato
                        last edited by Panther

                        @battleshipyamato

                        That's why I called using it an "erroneous workaround".

                        I recommend to delete the current version of "France Goes First" and redownload it once is has been revised. It simply has not been ready to be added to the 'official' repos and should not be available for download from within TripleA in its current status.

                        Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                          BattleshipYamato @Panther
                          last edited by

                          @panther

                          Thank you!

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                          • RogerCooperR Offline
                            RogerCooper @BattleshipYamato
                            last edited by

                            @battleshipyamato I update the repository to use a different file name france_goes_first.xml.

                            I will also check to be sure that are not other mods with similar problems.

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                              crockett36 @RogerCooper
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                              @rogercooper Thank you so much!

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