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    • LaFayetteL Online
      LaFayette Admin
      last edited by

      Please focus on ensuring that a few players that have never installed 2.7 before, do so. I'm concerned about that group, the people that have done the most testing have had 2.6 or 2.7 installed for some time, I'm concerned about the latest/fresh installs and there being a major blow up there. I am infinitely less concerned about the dice server right now than I am about the primary upgrade path.

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      • PantherP Offline
        Panther Admin Moderators Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
        last edited by Panther

        @LaFayette said:

        Were there any issues registering with the new server? Seems that is the outstanding point of communication that would need to happen (along with, upgrade now!)

        I can confirm that registering, confirming and testmail work with
        2026-06.16.15640!

        Thank you, that will certainly help!

        Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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        • LaFayetteL Online
          LaFayette Admin
          last edited by

          FWIW, the overall message is:

          • update to 2.7 now
          • re-register for dice rolls @ dice.triplea-game.org
          • the dice emails are almost certainly going to go into spam (until that is fixed)

          I'm most concerned at the moment about the herd migrating to 2.7 and there then being a big problem. The shut down of 2.5 bots and dice server will likely happen in pretty quick succession.

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          • PantherP Offline
            Panther Admin Moderators Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
            last edited by

            @LaFayette

            Shouldn't we encourage to update to at least
            2026-June-13 - 2026-06.16.15640
            (instead of any 2.7) ?

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            • ubernautU Online
              ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
              last edited by

              @LaFayette can we give them a hard date for this shut down or no?

              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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              • LaFayetteL Online
                LaFayette Admin
                last edited by

                @panther the version available from the website is the one to use, it's a "forever latest", ever code merge will be rebuilt and then immediately available for download.

                @ubernaut no hard date other than upgrade now... having everyone upgrade all at once is a recipe for utter disaster.. so I'm nervous about sending the communication out just yet. Ideally this would be way more gradual, and someone who had yet to upgrade at all could confirm that everything went smoothly

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                • ubernautU Online
                  ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
                  last edited by

                  @LaFayette ok i get that we want people upgrading right away and dont wan’t to distract but if i put a message out there i need to be able to field questions about it as well.

                  even if we can put something vague like "we expect to take down the 2.5 compatible servers within the next 2 days/week/whatever" it wud be better then me just saying "upgrade right away we dont know when we are turning off the existing servers but we’ll do it when it feels right so upgrade right away.” or some such.

                  the message will need to propagate bit i reckon.

                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  • LaFayetteL Online
                    LaFayette Admin
                    last edited by

                    I'd like to be sure that we have a few people on 2.7 safely. Once that is done, I'll toggle the in-game messaging to upgrade and would turn off the 2.5 dice server. Could be hours away from it really. If we don't get those few people in safely and something is a matter.. then it might be days/weeks until we get back to trying to migrate.

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                    • LaFayetteL Online
                      LaFayette Admin
                      last edited by

                      So far a few hiccups, but nothing too bad. Some players are having to re-install maps.

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                      • ubernautU Online
                        ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
                        last edited by

                        @LaFayette ok well a few hours to a few weeks is not a great message to putting out there tbh. it also sounds you dont currently actually even want a flood of updates.

                        i guess there is no ability send update notifications in the pre 2.6 clients so i suppose everyone will just find out when it happens to them.

                        btw im not getting notified of your replies bc you are replying to the thread.

                        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                        • ubernautU Online
                          ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
                          last edited by

                          @LaFayette i guess just notify me/us when you shut them off then and i will post about that after it happens still think we should have some overlap and still willing to pay for an extra month if it helps smooth things over.

                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                          • LaFayetteL Online
                            LaFayette Admin
                            last edited by

                            The billing is continuous / pro-rated

                            The willingness to pay is appreciated, but it's more if we carry the old dice server forward for another month, then why not another 3 months? When does it end?

                            A) we need the new server vetted out.
                            B) Really, we need that money going to the main servers. I need to check in with Prastle, but I think we're broke right now.

                            The old dice server is $25/month only because it's so old, Linode has been raising the price on us because of it. Since we can't migrate the code off, we've been stuck. It is looking pretty positive so far that 2026-06 is going to last.

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                            • ubernautU Online
                              ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
                              last edited by ubernaut

                              @LaFayette i hear you about where do you draw the line but any amount of warning is better than none imo. that’s why i’m suggesting something vague like “we expect to shut down the old servers within the next 2 weeks" or something then even if we do it earlier it not like we promised 2 weeks.

                              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                              • LaFayetteL Online
                                LaFayette Admin
                                last edited by

                                Either the old dice server will be shut down like tomorrow, or it'll be a month from now. I'm guessing will be tomorrow at this rate.

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                                • ubernautU Online
                                  ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
                                  last edited by

                                  @LaFayette lol ok i’ll post that and direct anyone with questions here

                                  pls reply to me rather then the thread in the future as i never get notified when you reply to the thread

                                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                  • LaFayetteL Online
                                    LaFayette Admin
                                    last edited by

                                    @ubernaut / @panther , also worth mentioning / knowing - a number of players have had to re-install maps to play on the bots.

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                                    • ubernautU Online
                                      ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
                                      last edited by

                                      @LaFayette just posted this here:

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/AxisAllies/comments/1u57chk/psa_update_your_triplea_client_asap/

                                      lmk if you think i need to change anything

                                      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                      • LaFayetteL Online
                                        LaFayette Admin @ubernaut
                                        last edited by LaFayette

                                        @ubernaut I'd maybe frame this as a major, required, and backward compatible release. It's required so we can discontinue old resources that are costing the project a significant fraction of our total expenses.

                                        Downgrading the lobby will save $10/month and removing old MARTI will be $25/month (in exchange for new MARTI that costs $5/month).

                                        There's no reason I can think of to not upgrade. Maybe worth mentioning that save games are expected to work well (but maps are looking to be a problem area and may need re-install)

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                                        • ubernautU Online
                                          ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
                                          last edited by

                                          @LaFayette i have added that additional text 🫡

                                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                          • LaFayetteL Online
                                            LaFayette Admin @ubernaut
                                            last edited by

                                            @ubernaut Thanks. I'm pretty certain at this point we'll turn off old dice server and trigger the in-game update notification. I'm not entirely sure when we'll turn off the old lobby exactly.

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