Urgent communication needed
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@LaFayette can we give them a hard date for this shut down or no?
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@panther the version available from the website is the one to use, it's a "forever latest", ever code merge will be rebuilt and then immediately available for download.
@ubernaut no hard date other than upgrade now... having everyone upgrade all at once is a recipe for utter disaster.. so I'm nervous about sending the communication out just yet. Ideally this would be way more gradual, and someone who had yet to upgrade at all could confirm that everything went smoothly
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@LaFayette ok i get that we want people upgrading right away and dont wan’t to distract but if i put a message out there i need to be able to field questions about it as well.
even if we can put something vague like "we expect to take down the 2.5 compatible servers within the next 2 days/week/whatever" it wud be better then me just saying "upgrade right away we dont know when we are turning off the existing servers but we’ll do it when it feels right so upgrade right away.” or some such.
the message will need to propagate bit i reckon.
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I'd like to be sure that we have a few people on 2.7 safely. Once that is done, I'll toggle the in-game messaging to upgrade and would turn off the 2.5 dice server. Could be hours away from it really. If we don't get those few people in safely and something is a matter.. then it might be days/weeks until we get back to trying to migrate.
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So far a few hiccups, but nothing too bad. Some players are having to re-install maps.
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@LaFayette ok well a few hours to a few weeks is not a great message to putting out there tbh. it also sounds you dont currently actually even want a flood of updates.
i guess there is no ability send update notifications in the pre 2.6 clients so i suppose everyone will just find out when it happens to them.
btw im not getting notified of your replies bc you are replying to the thread.
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@LaFayette i guess just notify me/us when you shut them off then and i will post about that after it happens still think we should have some overlap and still willing to pay for an extra month if it helps smooth things over.
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The billing is continuous / pro-rated
The willingness to pay is appreciated, but it's more if we carry the old dice server forward for another month, then why not another 3 months? When does it end?
A) we need the new server vetted out.
B) Really, we need that money going to the main servers. I need to check in with Prastle, but I think we're broke right now.The old dice server is $25/month only because it's so old, Linode has been raising the price on us because of it. Since we can't migrate the code off, we've been stuck. It is looking pretty positive so far that 2026-06 is going to last.
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@LaFayette i hear you about where do you draw the line but any amount of warning is better than none imo. that’s why i’m suggesting something vague like “we expect to shut down the old servers within the next 2 weeks" or something then even if we do it earlier it not like we promised 2 weeks.
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Either the old dice server will be shut down like tomorrow, or it'll be a month from now. I'm guessing will be tomorrow at this rate.
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@LaFayette lol ok i’ll post that and direct anyone with questions here
pls reply to me rather then the thread in the future as i never get notified when you reply to the thread
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@LaFayette just posted this here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AxisAllies/comments/1u57chk/psa_update_your_triplea_client_asap/
lmk if you think i need to change anything
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@ubernaut I'd maybe frame this as a major, required, and backward compatible release. It's required so we can discontinue old resources that are costing the project a significant fraction of our total expenses.
Downgrading the lobby will save $10/month and removing old MARTI will be $25/month (in exchange for new MARTI that costs $5/month).
There's no reason I can think of to not upgrade. Maybe worth mentioning that save games are expected to work well (but maps are looking to be a problem area and may need re-install)
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@LaFayette i have added that additional text 🫡
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@ubernaut Thanks. I'm pretty certain at this point we'll turn off old dice server and trigger the in-game update notification. I'm not entirely sure when we'll turn off the old lobby exactly.
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