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    TripleA 2026 with Java 25 & TripleA.vmoptions settings

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    • LaFayetteL Offline
      LaFayette Admin @TheDog
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      @TheDog You might get more bang for your buck by deleting the 'Xmx' and 'Xms' memory settings.

      The lobby window will occupy 4GB and then any game you launch will occupy another 4GB. Each game is its own instance, the memory settings AFAIK carry over.

      Generally Java uses very good defaults, so overriding those defaults can hurt. Specifically 'Xms', which is a minimum, so you're forcing the lobby window and any game to initially take more memory than it would need.

      I would personally set 'Xms' at 500m or remove entirely to let the JVM handle it.

      If we find some really good tunings, we can adopt those settings to be more built in.

      FWIW, Moon-Man was doing some experimentation with JVM settings here: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/discussions/14467

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      • ubernautU Offline
        ubernaut Lobby Moderators @LaFayette
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        @LaFayette someone posted this reply to my reddit post today i’m guessing they cant run the current java or something but figured i’d direct them here.

        Screenshot 2026-06-17 at 8.31.38 AM.png

        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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          beelee @ubernaut
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          @ubernaut

          There's a link somewhere that deals with mac issues specifically I think. I can't find it. @thedog might know where it's at.

          Edit
          You can also point him here if he needs maps to keep playing on 2.5 until he gets it sorted.

          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/4361/how-to-manually-download-world_war_ii_v5_1942-or-any-map

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          • ubernautU Offline
            ubernaut Lobby Moderators @beelee
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            @beelee cool thanks will send the link

            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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              TheDog @ubernaut
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              @ubernaut

              @beelee
              Were you thinking of this link?
              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3724/how-to-have-triplea-2-5-2-6-installed-at-the-same-time/7

              https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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              • ubernautU Offline
                ubernaut Lobby Moderators @TheDog
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                @TheDog no i think the problem is is mac os is so out of date it cant run the current version of java so it cannot run the current version of triplea (just my hunch) since we have stopped support for 2.5 he can no longer play the game.

                catalina is now 7 years old so u know idk it should matter to us if a system that old cannot run it given we are sort of married to java. but i think it’s important for us to know what the actual problem is. it may be not working for other situations as well.

                "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  beelee @TheDog
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                  @TheDog

                  yea that was it. I went there I thought but must have missed it.

                  @ubernaut
                  Yea I'm not familiar with catalina, or at least in the computer sense 🙂

                  That is an old web browser then ? Like internet explorer ? Well hopefully he sees your message. Hate to lose Players 🙂

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                    ubernaut Lobby Moderators @beelee
                    last edited by ubernaut

                    @beelee the operating system. only very ancient macs (2013 is the newest) are limited to this version of the os. but i am just guessing as to the problem and it could be affecting much newer macs for all we know at this point.

                    Screenshot 2026-06-17 at 10.56.30 AM.png

                    "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                      beelee @ubernaut
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                      @ubernaut

                      wow mac all about west coast cali 🙂 Not surprising I guess 🙂

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                      • ubernautU Offline
                        ubernaut Lobby Moderators @beelee
                        last edited by

                        @beelee i liked the cat theme myself lol

                        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                          TheDog @ubernaut
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                          @ubernaut
                          This link, will install to a new directory, hopefully that will return them to TripleA 2.5
                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3724/how-to-have-triplea-2-5-2-6-installed-at-the-same-time/7

                          As looks like 2026 has corrupted his environment and cant play with 2.5 in that directory.

                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                          • ubernautU Offline
                            ubernaut Lobby Moderators @TheDog
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                            @TheDog i think they wer saying they can play 2.5 but they cant use it for anything other than local play

                            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                              ubernaut Lobby Moderators @TheDog
                              last edited by ubernaut

                              @TheDog ima send them directly here just in case 🫡

                              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                beelee @ubernaut
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                                @ubernaut

                                yea would have to just post the local saves to the game thread or send via email.

                                As long as none of them are cheaters they should be OK 🙂

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                                  ubernaut Lobby Moderators @beelee
                                  last edited by ubernaut

                                  @beelee i dont think there’s any way to roll dice in 2.5 other than locally or via a network hosted game

                                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                    ubernaut Lobby Moderators
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                                    @lafayette @beelee @thedog the plot thickens…

                                    Screenshot 2026-06-17 at 12.58.01 PM.png

                                    "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                      beelee @ubernaut
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                                      @ubernaut

                                      hmm ... Idk of any mac users that can check the new release. I guess we could ask at the other site.

                                      Well, will wait a bit before doing that.

                                      Or I guess it doesn't matter lol They got slaughtered by bots today. Think they're back up. Hope that doesn't happen here. Had a 503 yesterday

                                      Edit
                                      I'd suggest he make a git issue. Has to join I know 🙂 but if he's running mac he should be able to handle it 🙂

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                                      • ubernautU Offline
                                        ubernaut Lobby Moderators @beelee
                                        last edited by ubernaut

                                        @beelee i haven’t yet upgraded myself will try it later today probably im still on a 2.7 release from like 2 years ago or something

                                        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                          beelee @ubernaut
                                          last edited by beelee

                                          @ubernaut

                                          I've reached my maximum upvotes 🙂

                                          Edit
                                          Are you on mac then ?

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                                            ubernaut Lobby Moderators @beelee
                                            last edited by

                                            @beelee 🫡

                                            yeah i’m mac should have time to test it out on current os w/e the problem is it doesn’t seem like it’s the java version

                                            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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