Creating a (hopefully) competitive bot using Claude Code.
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If you manage to create an AI which plays V5 better than Hard AI, that would be awesome. I would definitely try it out! Let us non-developers know when and how we can eventually test it.
I'm wondering if using V6 might help you fine tuning V5 even more than using V5 itself. V6 is a very unforgiving map since the start, and I believe it is much easier to beat Hard AI on V6 than on V5.
Minor note, there is the problem that the current best TripleA AI is called "Hard". If you make a better AI, how is TripleA going to inform users to use that as the first choice? Calling your AI "Very Hard AI" or changing the name of "Hard AI" to "Medium AI" something else? I wonder.
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lf. V6 is a very unforgiving map since the start, and I believe it is much easier to
I am not a developer, except vibecoding. But In order to actually play against the ai that I'm making, I think I would have to build a version that could be packaged into Triple A itself. Now it is a Python program that can only play automated games against other bots.
Well i guess it could play by email or by using save files, but that would be quite cumbersome.
If i ever get it "good enough" I will try to figure out if it can be integrated into Triple A, but for now that's a future step.
I have taken a look at V6, and I like your idea of using that simplified map if I stall out in terms of progress again. For now I will build on V5 since I still have ideas that I have not finished.
One thing that worked well on the minimap, was showing it examples of "Good" play, and having it try to extract rules from what it saw. If you have any save files of completed games on world_war_ii_v5_1942, they could be useful.
I can of course play vs the fast bot myself, but that will take time, and it would be better to have multiple examples form different players. Even better if we had an example or a few of 2 strong human players playing.
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@husky81
You and Claude have been busy! 🤯So much info to absorb.
So tempting to customise just for one map and very hard to keep it generic like the TripleA AIs.
The list of tried and tested tactics is awesome.
Having a list like that allows the Claude AI to 'try' the neutral tactics and for it to learn if they work on its new current map.For me a standout is
Keeping tanks inside the main stack instead of one step behind: detrimental (a nice confirmation of the owner’s principle).
On maps like 1941GCD, this is a valid Russian tactic. But for Germany , I cannot afford not to keep the German tanks out of the Attack stack. I guess its map dependant?
Its fab to see the win ratio has increased, well done!
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If you manage to create an AI which plays V5 better than Hard AI, that would be awesome. I would definitely try it out! Let us non-developers know when and how we can eventually test it.
I'm wondering if using V6 might help you fine tuning V5 even more than using V5 itself. V6 is a very unforgiving map since the start, and I believe it is much easier to beat Hard AI on V6 than on V5.
Minor note, there is the problem that the current best TripleA AI is called "Hard". If you make a better AI, how is TripleA going to inform users to use that as the first choice? Calling your AI "Very Hard AI" or changing the name of "Hard AI" to "Medium AI" something else? I wonder.
It could be called the HuskyAI.
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Yea "Husky and Claude"
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One thing that worked well on the minimap, was showing it examples of "Good" play, and having it try to extract rules from what it saw. If you have any save files of completed games on world_war_ii_v5_1942, they could be useful.
That's a great idea! Unfortunately, I've never played that map beside maybe once against the AI when @zjelcop was doing those AI challenges many years ago (and I don't kown anyone who plays it). I remember that it was one rare map which the Hard AI was playing quite well, whereas the same AI was much worse at playing V6 (which is the closest map to V5 by rules).
To be clear, "world_war_ii_v5_1942" is a map, so you cannot play it unless in the sense of playing either of its games, but I know that you mean the "World War II v5 1942 SE TR" game of that map (not the other one) unless maybe you actually meant that you are interested in game-saves of either "World War II v5 1942 SE TR" or "World War II v5 1942 Second Edition" (probably not)?
On a second thought, if this AI is optimized on V5, maybe it will be better to call it "WW2v5 AI" or something like that. Anyway, I'm overreaching.
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optimized on V5, maybe it will be better to call it "WW2v5 AI" or something like that. Anyway, I'm overreaching.
yes, you're right. I would be looking for games using the TR setup. However, at the level that I am working at now, examples of "good" play on either setup would be useful as data points.
The way I am programming the bot is map and rules agnostic, so it can read in the rule set and territories from the triple A map file, then use its logic to play the given map. It values territories by: Capital status, IPC value, connectedness to other territories, factory slots. I do not tell it that India is valuable, it should find that out by looking at its central location and its 3 production slots.
One caveat being that the bot is currently quite slow on WW2v5, so any larger map would really slow it down. Once I get it to be good, I will try to optimize more for speed, hopefully allowing for play on larger maps.
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@husky81
You and Claude have been busy! 🤯So much info to absorb.
So tempting to customise just for one map and very hard to keep it generic like the TripleA AIs.
The list of tried and tested tactics is awesome.
Having a list like that allows the Claude AI to 'try' the neutral tactics and for it to learn if they work on its new current map.For me a standout is
Keeping tanks inside the main stack instead of one step behind: detrimental (a nice confirmation of the owner’s principle).
On maps like 1941GCD, this is a valid Russian tactic. But for Germany , I cannot afford not to keep the German tanks out of the Attack stack. I guess its map dependant?
Its fab to see the win ratio has increased, well done!
To clarify, it only keeps the tanks outside the main stack when safe (at least that's the intended behaviour), it may still mess up. That's trickier in the mid and late game as Germany on a normal map, because the rear tank stack has to contend with air plus naval units coming in. I still play like that in some positions though, a stack of tanks and new infantry in Baltics connecting Germany to Karelia, the Baltic tanks defend both landings in France and put pressure on Arch, Finland and West Russia. Of course once the Allies have enough Units in Finland, this becomes unenable.
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@husky81
For future maps. The current TripleA AI is poor at Naval strategy.In particular one very big improvement would be the reuse of transports in Global maps.
In detail, this is the USA returning empty Transports from Europe/Normandy/Torch back to the USA for a refill, to be reused again.
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e current TripleA AI is poor at Naval strategy.
In particular one very big improvement would be the reuse of transports in Global maps.
In detail, this is the USA returnin
Transport logic is an active area that I'm working on, though it is far from solved. The challenge is to keep transports moving to useful squares, while remaining protected.
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@husky81
WellAnother biggy is picket fodder/Destroyers.
Meaning that they screen Transports or a Carrier/battleship strike stack.
Placed 1 Sea Zone away from from the above so Surface fleets cannot easily attack the above. -
I only play my own global map 1941GCD, as Britain/USA I line my Transport route with Destroyers, meaning they dont have to move .
This tactic should work for most global maps?
Maybe this is a valid option for HuskyAI ?
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