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    Lets make a new Map Making Guide

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    • Z Offline
      Zim Xero
      last edited by

      I think the best way to do this is to make a wiki entry. This way it can be modified, sorted and arranged, and branched out easily over time. Accompany it with a "Flagged" post here with a summary of getting started, with the link, and then Q&A and feedback. Volunteers can assign themselves to various content in the forum in order to more efficiently transfer data or create sections.

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        beelee @Frostion
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        @Frostion @Zim-Xero
        These are excellent ideas. I'm going back to work soon and won't have much pc access and frankly, don't think I understand how the xml works well enough to be of much help.

        Idk how wikis really work that well either, but I know Roger Cooper has one that lists all or most of the properties. I don't have his link handy but I'll track it down. Here it is:

        link text

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          prastle Moderators Admin
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          I think rogers link is listed on home page let me know if i posted wrong link

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            beelee @prastle
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            @prastle
            yea I think he has multiple ones. That one lists all the games and links to other stuff, but not to this one,or at least I couldn't find it. You have to dl some stuff and I didn't explore that far.

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              Black_Elk
              last edited by Black_Elk

              I think it would be nice to have. This kind of info is always relevant, and can be hard to hunt down sometimes. Also there's always new stuff cropping up in the map features, so even an old dog who's been around for a while can still learn the latest tricks.

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                prastle Moderators Admin
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                WOW! @beelee I have never even seen that link. Great Stuff!

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                  theredbaron
                  last edited by theredbaron

                  @Frostion Are you still thinking along these lines? I would be amicable to helping out on such a project, especially with the technical details of formatting it and making it easy to read and use once the information has been complied.

                  I had floated this idea once before, but without collaborators or time, it sunk pretty quickly. Here is a tidbit of those past ideas: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea-game.github.io/issues/38

                  There is certainly a lot of content that such a guide could have, but I think opening it up to the community would both increase our range and be a learning process for us all. I'd love to work with you to kickstart a project like this. Maybe PM me if you want to discuss a bit.

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                    beelee @theredbaron
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                    @theredbaron
                    H yea ! would be nice to see a triplea all-star team take this on ! Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to be of much use.

                    But would be cool to see happen : )

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                      Zim Xero @beelee
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                      @beelee

                      The basics (in a guide or guides) can always be improved. I'm for this but not willling to take on the enormous task.

                      The thing I think is even more important is problem and coding Q & A . There are a lot of posts with dozens of replies that result in the initial question being answered. This is the kind of stuff that it will hurt to lose... but actually be an advantage to capture in one location.

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                        redrum Admin @theredbaron
                        last edited by redrum

                        @theredbaron So I actually think the part that needs documented better is the "process" and what tools people use today. While documenting the different mechanics and the POS 2 XML would be useful, I think we really need to evaluate map making process as a whole before sinking lots of time into something like that.

                        I'd really like to vastly improve the map making tools but currently don't even have a good feel for how folks actually create maps.

                        TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                          ocxtox0m
                          last edited by ocxtox0m

                          Since this new forum has taken the place of the outdated Sourceforge website, I had the idea that we ought to try to create a new and updated Map Making Guide for use by both upcoming and seasoned mapmakers.

                          I believe that there is a lot of Map Making knowledge worth saving among the tens of thousands of entries on the old website. According to what I hear, manual copying and pasting will be required if we wish to "salvage" any beautiful and practical Map Making instructions, tips, recommendations, etc. from the old website. But perhaps we can make good use of these circumstances.

                          Although the two texts in these guides were written for TripleA v1.6.1.3, most of the information could simply be reviewed, checked for accuracy, and used in the new guide. The old guide 1:1 should not be copied and pasted, in my opinion. I believe it would be more beneficial to create a new manual, beginning with the "table of contents" definition, and then writing/rewriting the text a little at a time.

                          • Initial reactions to the concept?
                          • Are there any factors to take into account?
                          • Is anyone willing to lend a hand?
                          What would be the best strategy for creating this guide? Google Docs? a post that is only viewable by forum administrators? Perhaps if we defined the "table of contents" first, people could then

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                            TheDog @ocxtox0m
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                            @ocxtox0m
                            Google Docs works for me, as you can collaborate on it. It also it needs multiple admins.

                            One of the outputs should be pdf.

                            I am not a fan of Git Hub as a source holder as people dont like to maintain docs on it. Although the latest source should be uploaded and stored on it.

                            Some of the work has recently been redone in these stickies here;
                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/category/28/map-making
                            by my comrade in arms @Black_Elk

                            and my alternative method here
                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3318/easier-map-making-with-inkscape-reusable-art-assets

                            Im too busy to aid you, but I wish all the best.

                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                              ocxtox0m @TheDog
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                              @thedog thanks for suggesting me

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