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    • redrumR Offline
      redrum Admin @Mahks
      last edited by redrum

      @mahks Must have colon then space for key: value. I believe you can also use single quotes around a string if it happens to have a colon then space but is part of the string (key: 'part1: part2'. Generally, you only put 1 key/value pair per line.

      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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      • MahksM Offline
        Mahks @redrum
        last edited by

        @redrum said in XML option browser:

        @mahks @LaFayette My thought is put a JSON or YAML file at the root of the tripleA project just like the triplea_maps.yaml. Then have the necessary HTML/JS/CSS in the website project that pulls in that file and create a new area in the website to show this map making wiki. Thoughts?

        I would like to see the tool able to be used off line. Not sure how important that is to others. For that, it would be ideal to have only one file that contains all HTML/JS/CSS & JSON.

        Maybe those in the community that normally update the POS2 or YAML, could look at the JSON data in the XOB document and tell us if they would be able to update that data format directly. If so things become very simple. If not we then need at least 2 files and a conversion process.

        Having the XOB page within the TA page is neither here nor there as it would most likely be in a separate tab or window if in use. I personally would want a stand alone page just to maximize screen real estate.

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        • redrumR Offline
          redrum Admin @Mahks
          last edited by

          @mahks Probably could just offer a download from the website that either just downloads all the HTML/JS/CSS/JSON in a folder that could run locally or even as say a PDF or something. That should be relatively easy since to get it on the website it would be pulling all of those together anyways.

          TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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          • RoiEXR Offline
            RoiEX Admin
            last edited by

            @Mahks I don't think having an inlined all-in-one page fits the structure of our website.
            Of course we could just upload the file and leave everything as-is, but if we want to align the design with a website we'd want to use the existing css that's being kept seperate in its own css file.
            So if we want to drop offline support I have a pretty good strategy that'll make everything pretty easy to read.
            I'd actually prefer seperate files per entry, the opposite of @redrum's idea.
            This way everything is way more structured and easier accessible.
            Also when creating a new entry one would just create a new file which is pretty straightforward IMO.
            Also we could give "context" a special treatment so that the xml can just get pasted at the end of the file without having to to any escaping.

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            • LaFayetteL Online
              LaFayette Admin @redrum
              last edited by LaFayette

              Thanks for feedback.

              To build on how yaml knows about the double colon, it knows based on the first letter after the first colon. There are three choices, 'string', 'list', or 'map', if it sees a [, it's a list, { for a map, and any letter is a string value. You can also do lists in a different syntax, multi-line as:

              list_name:
               - a
               - b
               - c
              same_list_values: [ 'a' , 'b', c' ]
              

              And for a map:

              map_name:
                - property_a: 1
                - property_b: 2 
              map_name { 'a': 1, 'b': 2 }
              

              And you can nest these, so hence why we have a superset of JSON.

              YAML provides block values with native HTML without any escaping, so it's just a nicer format to work with and avoids the error prone syntax requirements of JSON.

              The idea is that we basically structure a YAML to match the needed JSON, work with the YAML by hand, and use software to do the relatively simple conversion to JSON and upload to website (we have an existing pattern for doing that).

              All that aside, simply hosting the HTML directly on the triplea website is a good first option! : )

              That would be just plopping the file in: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea-game.github.io; Then it'll be available from http://triplea-game.org/theFileName.html

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              • LaFayetteL Online
                LaFayette Admin @RoiEX
                last edited by

                Sounded to me like offline support was in-lieu of online support. The most brute-force option here is to just host on website as an html.

                Overall it seems we are weighing three options:

                • maintain the data as an html file (post-render) hosted directly on website repo.
                • create dynamic html page that is hosted on website repo, feed the page a JSON payload that is rendered from a YML file
                • create dynamic html page that is hosted on website repo, feed the page a JSON payload that is rendered from a set of input files (eg: all files in a given folder)

                Let me know @RoiEX if I mischaracterized the recommendation.

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                • RoiEXR Offline
                  RoiEX Admin
                  last edited by

                  @LaFayette Seems right.
                  However I'd like to point out option 2 and 3 do not work well offline.

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                  • MahksM Offline
                    Mahks
                    last edited by

                    Update:

                    • Added alpha buttons
                    • Hierarchical index now expands & collapses

                    XOB Update

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                    • MahksM Offline
                      Mahks
                      last edited by

                      Update:

                      • Search option added
                      • Navigation to previous object added.
                      • Fixed off-line issues.

                      XOB Update

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                      • General_ZodG Offline
                        General_Zod Moderators @Mahks
                        last edited by

                        @mahks Nice job.

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                        • HeppsH Offline
                          Hepps Moderators @Mahks
                          last edited by

                          @mahks Glad to see this is still alive. Well done fine sir!

                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                          • B Offline
                            butterw
                            last edited by

                            The hierarchical index is great tool for anyone trying to understand what is possible with triplea game scenario .xml. POS2 can be a bit hard to read and take in.

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                              LaFayette Admin @butterw
                              last edited by

                              @butterw POS2 is out of date in places as well : |

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                              • cameronC Offline
                                cameron
                                last edited by

                                is this still getting updated? it looks like @Mahks hasn't posted in several years...

                                wondering if anyone can fix the entry for "carrierCapacity" as it's example is for "carrierCost".

                                actually, while on the subject of corrections, can we get all the examples to use " (double quotes) instead of ' (single quotes)? such a pain having to edit when copy/pasting and missing one...

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                                  LaFayette Admin @cameron
                                  last edited by

                                  @cameron

                                  @Myrd was doing some work to move the XOB to the official TripleA website.

                                  It is kinda available here, but does not yet render nicely:
                                  https://triplea-game.org/xob/XOB.html

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                                  • cameronC Offline
                                    cameron
                                    last edited by

                                    good to know it's not been abandoned. 🙂

                                    although that link just displayed the code for me... 😞

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                                    • LaFayetteL Online
                                      LaFayette Admin @cameron
                                      last edited by

                                      @cameron Indeed; not sure what is more needed to get it to actually "render". I was happy to see it be picked back up as well.

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                                      • cameronC Offline
                                        cameron
                                        last edited by

                                        i copypasted the text into notepad and deleted the
                                        "Line wrap
                                        <!DOCTYPE HTML>"
                                        bit at the front and saved it as an .html file and now it works in my browser (firefox).

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                                        • LaFayetteL Online
                                          LaFayette Admin
                                          last edited by LaFayette

                                          It is interesting that works. Seemingly it is the web browser auto-attaching the 'doctype' part.

                                          Here is the raw contents of the file, notice it is missing that doctype line:
                                          https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea-game.github.io/blob/master/xob/XOB.html

                                          For comparison: https://triplea-game.org/xob/XOB.html

                                          What else, I'm not able to apply the same trick as you. If I save the file & open it - I see similar results as 'https://triplea-game.org/xob/XOB.html'
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                                          • cameronC Offline
                                            cameron
                                            last edited by cameron

                                            huh. so what's adding the weird prefix?

                                            maybe try commenting out line 9 & 10?

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