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    • redrumR Offline
      redrum Admin @epinikion
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      @epinikion The error is indicating that your large_middle_earth-master.zip is missing some files, nothing to do with the new map. Can you try deleting it from your maps folder?

      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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      • alkexrA Offline
        alkexr @epinikion
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        @epinikion Let me guess what you did. You have the old "Large Middle Earth - Third Age All Stars" downloaded. You also downloaded and manually installed a version 2.0.4 or earlier of the map, and now you downloaded BFA from whithin the game. Then you tried to start a game named "Large Middle Earth: The Battle For Arda" or "Middle Earth: The Battle For Arda".

        If this is the case, then try starting the game named "Middle Earth: Battle for Arda". I also suggest that you delete the one you installed manually, although it's technically not necessary.

        If you haven't downloaded it from the game, then do so, and then try starting "Middle Earth: Battle for Arda".

        Hope this helps.

        "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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          epinikion Moderators
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          thanks guys, after redrums post i thougth it would be a nice idea to reinstall triplea and all is fine now. so i play my first game against the hard ai now. i give him good and +30% income all game. i think i can help balancing the game later. also interested in any online or pbem game.

          i am really sure we have the best triplea-map here and i played almost all maps. i am sure i can help balancing later.

          epi

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          • redrumR Offline
            redrum Admin @epinikion
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            @epinikion Sounds good. If you notice any particularly bad behaviors from the Hard AI let me know. I haven't really tested it yet on this map. I know one thing it will do poorly is purchases as it doesn't quite understand the complex unit set with all the support and AA type attacks. But hopefully combat/non-combat moves it does ok.

            TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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              epinikion Moderators
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              hi redrum,

              well yes hard ai is one thing. the main problem is ofc that he does not go for the main important terrs. Gondor needs to close osgiliath heavy as long as possible. also i guess a really important ai problem is: calcing the reattacks. its not enough to win a battle. even when you gain 30+ TUV . when you loose 50 o r more in reattack its a bad deal. probably hard to explain to a machine 馃檪

              best, epi

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                epinikion Moderators
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                hi alkexr,

                you think you can add description of unit abilities? I mean when you purchase you should know what unit is mountainwalker what is cave dweller and so on.

                best, epi

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                • alkexrA Offline
                  alkexr @epinikion
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                  @epinikion If there are abilities like "cave dweller", that means you are playing Large Middle Earth; not the Battle for Arda. In that case, there is a smaller table near the start of the game notes explaining what every ability means.

                  In BFA, you should read the game notes, it should mention every single ability, although there is no quick reference to check (yet).

                  "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                    epinikion Moderators
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                    hey alkexr,

                    a) i am playing bfa. cave dweller was obvious a bad example bc its lme, but the ability for mountainwalk is also in bfa. i see the notes and i find a description about all those kind of abilities. but how do i know what unit has what abilities/preferences? Its also not in the unit help.
                    example: i know that the warg_scout has mountaineer ability, while the ward_rides hasnt. Where do i find this in the notes?

                    b) invisible units: I am not sure if i like, that i cant see my own units. it happens really often to me that i forget them (builded last round, placed in city. forget them as invisible).

                    thx again,

                    epi

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                    • alkexrA Offline
                      alkexr @epinikion
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                      @epinikion said in Middle Earth: Battle For Arda - Official Thread:

                      a) but how do i know what unit has what abilities/preferences? Its also not in the unit help.
                      example: i know that the warg_scout has mountaineer ability, while the ward_rides hasnt. Where do i find this in the notes?

                      There is no unit table in the game notes yet. But I think I know what the problem is. You are using a pre-release without the improved tooltips. Download a more recent pre-release (11000+), and everything should be displayed both in the "Unit help" menu and in the tooltips.

                      b) invisible units: I am not sure if i like, that i cant see my own units. it happens really often to me that i forget them (builded last round, placed in city. forget them as invisible).

                      Look at the very upper left corner of the map. If you see your units there, that means this problem too will be solved with a newer pre-release.

                      https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/1.9.0.0.11665

                      "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                        zlefin Moderators
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                        so how's the balance looking on this? I see quite a few changes since last I tried the map.
                        gonna tinker with it a bit this weekend.

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                        • alkexrA Offline
                          alkexr @zlefin
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                          @zlefin said in Middle Earth: Battle For Arda - Official Thread:

                          so how's the balance looking on this?

                          We are in the process of figuring it out. https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/990/battle-for-arda-2-0-6-alkexr-evil-vs-redrum-good

                          "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                          • arntofA Offline
                            arntof
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                            So this map is ready to play? I downloaded it, but can`t open a bot with it in the lobby?

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                              prastle Moderators Admin @arntof
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                              @arntof It has not been added to the bots yet. You will have to host.

                              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                prastle Moderators Admin @prastle
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                                @arntof sorry it has been added I was incor

                                If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                • arntofA Offline
                                  arntof
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                                  I saw it in the list and loaded it, but it wont let me actually start the map, telling me that it is missing.

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                                    prastle Moderators Admin @arntof
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                                    @arntof read this link
                                    https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/15553

                                    If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                      Dr. Stein
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                                      Hi guys, i want to tell you all that you are doing really good job and i wanted to tell you big thanks. This map is easily the best of them all, its beautiful and worth of glory!!!

                                      However, i want to ask a question of balance. I played a few games against myself and...is there a way of stopping or at least delaying angmar without using the freefolk? In LME i always used as much freefolk power as possible against isengard (to take everything west of isengard from them), like this rohan could hold isengard, and help lorien at the same time. The freefolk army could invade dol guldur or mordor. But now it sems to me that angmar can kill most arnor forces by itself and then start spamming dragons.

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                                        redrum Admin @Dr. Stein
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                                        @dr-stein Depends. If Angmar focuses on Lorien then you probably have to use at least some of Freefolk's units to help them defend if you want to keep their cities. But if they focus further east on Northmen/Dwarves then you can head south with freefolk. My feeling is Angmar has a lot of options and Good has to mostly focus on countering where they decide to focus.

                                        TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                        • alkexrA Offline
                                          alkexr @Dr. Stein
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                                          @dr-stein I agree with @redrum in that while Angmar has the option to threaten Arnor severely, this leaves them qiute open to the Dwarves, and so I'm not sure the pressure on Arnor is sustainable. We'll see. (This is the strategy I'm currently trying, so we'll soon be wiser.)

                                          "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                          • alkexrA Offline
                                            alkexr @epinikion
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                                            @epinikion said in Middle Earth: Battle For Arda - Official Thread:

                                            i think i can help balancing the game later. also interested in any online or pbem game.

                                            We can start a PBF game later, ATM the game against @redrum takes up a long time, much more than I expected when I offered 6 challenges at a time; not sure whether the reason is that I underestimated PBF games or that I feel outmatched in tactics. Also I already have things in the mind that need to be changed. I'll remember to ask you when I feel like I'm ready for another game.

                                            "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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