Roger's Scenario Thread

TheDog

@rogercooper
I dont think you can have all random territories/setup and have have capitals.

The only way I thought of coding it was having one fixed territory per faction, the capital, but decided to go with completely random and use TUV for the towns and cities.

Thanks the link for Conquest of Nerath at first glance, it looks very interesting!

RogerCooper

Name Twelve Clans-Sekigahara
Description The Sengoku period in Japan, inspired by the Samurai Swords series of boardgames
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Good Points

An interesting, historically based situation
Nice unit art

Bad Points

Unit count rises quickly as many units spawn other units
Mega-stacks are overly favored
Not much sense of the actual history, where the need to pay soldiers and fortified mountain passes was important

RogerCooper

Name New World Order 1939 Lebowski
Description World War 2 in Europe
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Good Points

Playable with Fast AI
Balanced

Bad Points

Despite 1939 starting point, Russia & US are active immediately and Turkey is in the Axis

Cernel

@rogercooper Wow. The description says "World War 2 in Europe", and Turkey is waging war as a member of the Axis?

Really, the description should be changed. I know that no wargame is realistic, but that's beyond the pale.

Nevertheless, I would not say it is a "bad point" per se. The bad point is rather the description not telling the game is not really WW2.

Nothing wrong with making any kind of alternate history as long as it is intended and documented.

RogerCooper

@cernel If a scenario is not described as alternate history or hypothetical, then having countries in the wrong alliance is an error. I have seen a number of scenarios where Turkey is in the Axis just to have more fighting in the MIddle East. Historically, Turkey was neutral, declaring war on Germany in March 45 without participating in any military operations. The Turkish government had close ties to Britain and good relations with Russia.

RogerCooper

Name Cold War-1965
Description World War 3 in 1965 on a world map designed for it with China as a separate alliance.
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Good Points

Not just another World War 2 game
Modern-looking unit art
A map designed for WW3

Bad Points

The AI plays the first turn slowly
No victory conditions
The game tends stalemate with the Soviets overrunning Eurasia and NATO dominant elsewhere.

butterw

Name World War II v5 1942 Second Edition (5 players)

1942.2: ww2 v2 "Revised" map updated with +15 more land territories.

Here are some stats from one of the ww2 scenarios (I may also look at others). Balance is poor without bid (favors axis AI: Russians<Japanese).

Info obtained from Export>stats_full.csv, except for map size which was derived from the xml.

Map size 161 (Territories/Sea: 96 65)
Territories Allies/Axis/"isImpassable" Neutrals: 48 31 16
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 11 16 21 16 16
Initial PUs/Production: 168, Allies/Axis: 97 71
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 24 41 31 30 42
Initial Units: 227, Allies/Axis: 113 114
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 36 65 41 49 36
Initial TUV: 1381, Allies/Axis: 714 667
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 180 362 283 305 251
Initial Production Capacity, 10 factories (can place 65 units)
Allies/Axis: 7 3 (47 21)
Russians 8+4+2=14
Germans 10+3=13
British 8+3=11
Japanese 8
Americans 12+10=22

RogerCooper

Name NM'sL-wip
Description World War One on a detailed world map
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Good Points

Lots of political & technological options
Conflicts in many areas

Bad Points

Lots of ahistorical stuff
Slow-playing even with Fast AI

RogerCooper

Name Classic: Iron Blitz 1942A: Russia Neutral
Description US & UK vs Germany & Japan
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Good Points

Interesting hypothetical situation
Fast-playing

**Bad Points

Strongly favors the Axis

RogerCooper

Name Big World 2 : Rise of the Axis
Description The Big World map, starting in 1939
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Good Points

Interesting political & tech options

Bad Points

Hard for the Axis to achieve their historical conquest, let alone win

RogerCooper

Name Great War-TLS-March1918
Description World War 1 in 1918
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Good Points

Interesting historical situation
Special units to reflect 1918

Bad Points

No victory conditions
No sense of the exhaustion of the Central Powers
The West Front inset map makes it impossible for the Germans to strike a knockout blow
The inset maps are pointless in 1918 situation

RogerCooper

Name AAC-Buildcaps
Description Classic game with builds limited to what came in the box
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Good Points

No superstacks

Bad Points

Russia can't survive without hordes of infantry

RogerCooper

Name Iron Blitz-1939B-RussiaInTheAxis
Description Russia & Germany vs Britain, Japan & United States with the Classic map and rules
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Good Points

Plays fast
Different situation

Bad Points

The game tends to stalemate, with it being especially hard for the Axis to breakout against powers that control the sea.

Cernel

@rogercooper Pretty sure this is not possible in TripleA (in a clean way).

The (never implemented) intended default TripleA rules are that you are limited to a number of same-unit stacks per player per type of unit, but the total number of units is unlimited (for example, max 3 of a type of units means that every player can have up to 3 stacks of that type of unit, yet it can still have infinite numbers of them), except for infrastructures, which are limited to a number per type (not per player, so, once the number is reached, nobody can have more of them for the rest of the game beside "aaGun" units becoming purchasable again after being removed from play as cargo of sunken "transport" units).

I've not looked at the game you are referring to, yet I'm pretty sure neither of these rules is supported by TripleA.

You probably should reword your description, telling that the reviewed game is a custom mod (what else?). Also, if it is a mod of "World War II Classic", I suggest its name starting as "WWIIv1" (for consistency sake), like "WWIIv1 Build Caps".

Cernel

@rogercooper said in Roger's Scenario Thread:

Bad Points

Russia can't survive without hordes of infantry

Playing "Classic" by the intended default TripleA rules, the Russians are virtually unlimited in infantry purchases because it is virtually impossible you reach the generous maximum number of stacks of infantry you are limited to. I actually don't think anyone is ever going to reach it, so infantry units are practically unlimited anyways.

RogerCooper

@cernel The mod I was playing limited the total number of units, not the number of stacks. This was the rule in original 1981 edition of the game and is fully supported by TripleA. However, it did not work too well in this mod.

RogerCooper

Name WW2v3-3 Alliances
Description An alternate WW2 with Russia, China & Japan forming a third alliance
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Good Points

Fast-playing version 3 rules
Interesting alt history situation

Bad Points

Hard to achieve the actual victory conditions

RogerCooper

Domination 1914-Weltpolitik
World War 1 on a large world map
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Good Points

Interesting political options
Lots of nations with conflict all over the map

Bad Points

With large number of units on a big map, the game plays slowly

RogerCooper

Name Command and Conquer
Description SF battle for Europe & Africa
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Good Points

Not another WW2 game
Plays fast
SF-themed units from the Command and Conquer computer game

Bad Points

Neutral units in lots of places causes confusion
Only 2-playable nations limits options
Poor artwork

RogerCooper

Name World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition
Description A 1942 scenario for the Global game
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Good Points

No messy political rules
The US has some thing to do from the start

Bad Points

It can still be tough on the Allies, who don't have enough of a production advantage to offset Russian's isolation