@lafayette Idk if this is known already but I fired up lobby using 15557 and UHD G 40 Boxes showed up for the first time It did however throw this error but not crash it. Bottom Bar [image: 1778402045184-screenshot-from-2026-05-10-03-27-48.png] I will see if it plays. Edit Yes it seems to play fine so far and a manual save worked. I think I saw somewhere the auto save thingy was mentioned already but not certain ... anyway Well Done Edit 2 Yea game seems to work fine in lobby. I heard a sound like someone posting a few times but it didn't show any new dialogue. [image: 1778402964235-screenshot-from-2026-05-10-03-46-37.png] Edit 3 I tried to load the save but said it didn't have the game. Tried a couple different bots. Same result. [image: 1778403530722-screenshot-from-2026-05-10-03-58-39.png] Well it sounds as if you might already be aware of this, so I'll hold off with anymore feedback for now.

@Trout uggh ! Didn't even sink the DD lol Game History Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 airfield, 2 infantry and 1 italian_para; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Italians Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Trigger Russians Allied Americans 3: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Italians Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Southern Italy Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Italians takes Bessarabia from Russians EDIT: Changing ownership of Bessarabia from Italians to Russians EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Note to players Russians: Unprovoked Italian Attack! If Russia Purchased Any Units After Axis Declaration of War, They Must Place Them in any Non Combat Russian Territory Now. Ignore if Germany has Already Attacked. 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Ukraine EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 italian_para moved from Greece to Ukraine Combat - Italians Battle in Ukraine Italians attack with 1 Italian_LCV, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 italian_para Russians defend with 1 elite, 2 infantry and 1 russian_minor Italians roll dice for 1 Italian_LCV, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 italian_para in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 elite and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 elite owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine Italians win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 Italian_LCV, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 italian_para remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Russians: 1 elite and 2 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 119 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 87 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at119 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 119 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at87 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 87 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Italians in Romania 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Romania 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 1 armour moved from Greece to Romania 3 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria 1 Europe_Rail moved from Southern Italy to Southern France 1 Europe_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Romania 1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 air_transport and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya Place Units - Italians 1 airfield placed in Gibraltar 2 infantry and 1 italian_para placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Italians regular : 2.17 Russians regular : -1.33 EXP Game 12 Trout I 3.tsvg

@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Thanks mate! But I am starting to power down after packing all evening. I'll roll the dice when I'm back in a couple of weeks, enjoy the "temporary peace" lol Yes, I have been traumatized by Italy 'can-opening' in the OOB rules - now this takeover situation is even more crazy to watch out for! Will do, thanks again. I look forward to it!

@beelee said: Those Tommy Paras were Badass lol They did an outstanding job indeed! And they died for a better reason.

@rogercooper The newer TripleA versions have a lot of syntax checking, so I would upgrade to the latest version and let it do its stuff. It has found at least two errors in my maps.

@ubernaut Finished Germany. triplea_3915_11ger.tsvg Russia is up.

@lafayette Must have been a hard day for you. Thank you for all your efforts!

@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Game History Round: 5 Purchase Units - Japanese Note to players Japanese: It is Early 1942 and our Proud Navy has added Transport Capacity to our Destroyers ! Destroyers may now transport 1 Infantry or Elite Infantry. Japanese buy 1 Escort, 1 Japan_destroyer, 4 armour, 1 carrier, 1 elite and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Trigger DD Transport: Setting transportCapacity cleared for unitAttachment attached to Japan_destroyer Trigger DD Transport: Setting transportCapacity to 2 for unitAttachment attached to Japan_destroyer Trigger DD TransportPacific: Setting transportCapacity cleared for unitAttachment attached to JPN_Pacific_DD Trigger DD TransportPacific: Setting transportCapacity to 2 for unitAttachment attached to JPN_Pacific_DD Combat Move - Japanese Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu 1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenkiyskiy Japanese take Yenisey from Russians Japanese take Evenkiyskiy from Russians 1 infantry moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan Japanese take Kazakhstan from Russians 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai 5 artilleries, 16 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai 2 JPNbombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Hopei to Tsinghai Combat - Japanese Battle in Tsinghai Japanese attack with 2 JPNbombers, 5 artilleries, 3 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 21 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 JPNbombers, 5 artilleries, 3 fighters, 17 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Tsinghai, round 2 : 8/31 hits, 10.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 21 infantry in Tsinghai, round 2 : 10/22 hits, 7.67 expected hits 10 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Tsinghai 8 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Tsinghai Japanese roll dice for 2 JPNbombers, 5 artilleries, 3 fighters, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Tsinghai, round 3 : 11/21 hits, 8.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 13 infantry in Tsinghai, round 3 : 4/14 hits, 5.00 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Tsinghai 11 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Tsinghai Japanese roll dice for 2 JPNbombers, 5 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Tsinghai, round 4 : 9/17 hits, 7.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Tsinghai, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Tsinghai 1 fighter owned by the Chinese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Tsinghai Japanese win, taking Tsinghai from Chinese with 2 JPNbombers, 5 artilleries, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27 Casualties for Japanese: 15 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 21 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 109 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at109 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 109 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Kansu Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 1 J_Rail owned by Japanese in Kweichow 1 aaGun moved from Shensi to Tsinghai 2 JPNbombers, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Tsinghai to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Buryatia to Yenisey 1 armour moved from Sakha to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 1 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha 1 elite moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East 1 armour moved from Soviet Far East to 5 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Korea to Amur 1 Escort_Convoy moved from 6 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone 1 elite and 3 mine_unarmeds moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 elite, 3 mine_unarmeds and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 elite and 3 mine_unarmeds moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 Japan_destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 Japan_destroyer and 1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 Heavy_BB moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone 1 Japan_destroyer and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 Escort_Convoy moved from 18 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Korea 1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Korea to Kansu 1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Korea 1 J_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Korea to Kweichow EDIT: 1 Japanese_LCV and 1 aaGun moved from Japan to Korea Place Units - Japanese 1 Escort, 1 Japan_destroyer and 1 carrier placed in 6 Sea Zone 4 armour and 4 infantry placed in Korea 1 elite and 1 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Note to players Japanese: <body><b>It is Early 1942 and Our Shipyards are Hard at Work.<br><br>We will soon Launch 1 new Cruiser and 1 new Submarine. They may only Operate in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.<b></body> Japanese collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Control China: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Chinese regular : 1.00 Japanese regular : 1.17 It was a struggle but I got it done Best go to bed now. It's Sunday and bier store opens 2 hours later Guy didn't unload from DD in 36 EXP Game 10 Straw J 5edit.tsvg Edit lol LMs are Armed in Caroline. Spaced it

@crockett36 Max Scramble. Keep the Escrt as long as you have Subs, unless it's just the Hvy BB left. Reminder, as I posted above, your Naval Ftrs have to land on CVs, even if they have the range, they can't land on land.

@LaFayette said: i'm able to repro the black test I'm sure you're already aware of this but just in case as soon as I click on anything after it goes black, even an empty space, the black goes away. Idk how to communicate that to people. I guess they'll probably just figure it out on their own. It'd be nice if it didn't happen at all but most likely lower on the priority todo list.

@JohnnyCat Yeah, I've also been wondering why they have been added when downloading the game - wasn't sure if that was intentional but I can try to delete them off. I'll be a couple weeks before I'm back to play this next turn

@TheDog said: With 300+ maps and a solution that requires no xml changes to work, could be using a pre Move Delegate centering, maybe? Ahh, now I understand your question. Before I answer let's look at what is being asked. Using "World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition" with the default settings, technology is 'off' in 2.5.22294 the map does not center, which is the same as 2.7.15494. So, what we have now is the same as how TripleA has always function. Adding centering to the MovePhase would cause TripleA to reorientate during the players turn, which could be very confusing. If the centering which is in 2.7.15025 cannot be duplicated, then IMO, centering should be left to map makers as an XML hack, and not added to a 'phase'. Cheers...

@LaFayette I just want you to point to https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/14364 where testing the new dice server fails with an error message (see there please). Also I would like to know whether this is "only" a technical change or has the "randomize logic" changed, too?

@rogercooper There are some of Joe's here https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/4048/tank-destroyer-images?_=1778310491975 Edit Here's a few colorized [image: 1778314022313-tankdestroyerfs.png] [image: 1778314034023-usatankdestroyerfs.png] [image: 1778314049220-panzerjagerfs.png]

@Zealossus Good luck with the mod.

@stevenJTripleA G40 EXP StevenJ vs JohnnyCat UK END Turn3.tsvg

@beelee said: I'm still not 100% certain what the benefit is. Does this make supportAttachment better ? The Wolfpack unit is a token unit and has to be removed/replaced. Now the supportAttachment does this automatically. As I said, there is no battle round check, but this is a big step. Being able to 'group' supports is something new and needs further testing. Right now, its late so I'm going to bed. Cheers...

This page has stable versions https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides 2.5.22294 Current stable, best for older maps and lobby players. https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.5.22294

@LaFayette heh heh I was surprised I got it to work myself Yea I thought about going to 26.04 but it's pretty new, so decided stick with 24.04 and even though this isn't the right thread, my new install allows me to access the 2.5 lobby and the End Turn report shows up now. So both of those were on my end.

@beelee said: The old one still be available for those that like it I assume ? Probably not. This is a completely different library. Substance has served us well, but has bugs, and our current version is really old and difficult to upgrade. I'm leaning somewhat strongly to go with this new L&F library. Namely because the upgrade path is already done, with Substance (our old L&F), we'd have to do some work/efforts to upgrade.