Etiquette Question Concerning Maps

RoiEX

@Cernel True, but that was before my time here at TripleA, so I don't have much to say about it

Strider

@frostion
You have understood the intent of my question correctly.
Thank you for your good wishes.

Strider

As a follow up to the main question, which you have so graciously answered:
How do I contact the creator/ owner of a map in order to ask for their permission when all i have is a name which is presumably the creator's username?

Cernel

@strider Here it is the would be owner:
http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodes&user=59638
(you can send him a mail if you are logged on http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/)
(assuming he is not here in this forum too, which I don't think he is, and there is a way to verify his credentials, which I don't think there is)

Here it is the map thread:
http://tripleadev.1671093.n2.nabble.com/ATARI-td2187868.html

Strider

@cernel thank you

General_Zod

@redrum I suggest the council make a quasi official rule of thumb at minimum and post it somewhere.

redrum

@general_zod Probably a good idea since we end up talking about this like once a month. Are you volunteering to write something up?

prastle

@redrum gigglez @redrum devious evil ways still exist

General_Zod

@redrum Ok, I will bring it up at our weekly council meeting.

But yeah I can have them vote on something.

Cernel

I don't understand why anyone would want to limit mapmaking by inibiting intra platform performing skin or xml content in any ways after release (that currently means uploading to a public GitHub repository), beside what dictated by the law.

Frostion

@Cernel Well, personally I would define it as bad judgment to grab a work-in-progress map from Github, that is still in active development, and make a new map/mod out of it, before the original is even done. I would see this as a kind of hijacking, no matter if the copy map is of higher or lower quality.

Edit: Ofcours if it is an abandoned project, I would only encourage other people to make something useful out of the map.

But that is just an opinion, and I don't expect rules to be based on this opinion, actually I expect this behaviour to be permitted.

prastle

@frostion also see this link

https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1014/proposals-for-rules-in-using-other-peoples-maps-artwork-in-your-own-projects

Hepps

@frostion I argee 100%. This isn't necessarily a question of whether or not someone can design a MOD out of an existing project... but rather at what point it would be deemed acceptable.

The issue isn't necessarily the legality of an infringement... but rather the respect for someones else's work.

Cernel

@frostion said in Etiquette Question Concerning Maps:

@Cernel Well, personally I would define it as bad judgment to grab a work-in-progress map from Github, that is still in active development, and make a new map/mod out of it, before the original is even done. I would see this as a kind of hijacking, no matter if the copy map is of higher or lower quality.

I don't see any problems about this (if not required by the law), as long as full credit is given and there is no confusion about what is the original.

Hepps

Personally I think hijacking an active project without permission is deplorable (whether credit is given or not, although not giving any credit would be even worse) . It is the kind of behavior that can make a map maker not want to be part of this community.