Trying to put age of tribes engine on alexander 350 world map

Ted Self

Ted Self

@ted-self You know, a couple of things just hit me. I had been using the primeval xml from the age of tribes master zip, and maybe I should have been using the age of tribes xml from the age of tribes zip. It is the one I have been playing recently that works, perhaps because I accidently screwed the other one up. Anyhow, the xmls from the alexander world map, the age of tribes zip and my latest attempt to combine the two are at https://github.com/tedrockets/triplea My brain is in a bit of overdrive fatigue right now if anyone would care to take a stab at it.

wc_sumpton

@ted-self

Tried using Alexander350 and Age of Tribes: Primeval:

<game>
    <info name="World of Ages: Primeval" version="0.003"/>
    <loader javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.TripleA"/>
	<triplea minimumVersion="2.5.22294"/>
	<diceSides value="6"/>
	<!-- Notes:
	** Merging of Alexander350 and Age of Tribes: Primeval xml's
	** .001 testing rename of Alexander350 to World of Ages: Primeval
	**		replacing 'ttatch' with 'ttach' (705 replacements)
	**		changes to map.yml
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++ start change +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
map_name: world_of_ages
games:
- {game_name: 'World of Ages: Primeval', file_name: world_of_ages_primeval.xml}
version: 0
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ end +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
	** .002 testing merger <map> and territoryAttachment Alexander350
	**		everything else Age of Tribes: Primeval
	**		rename folders units and flags to units_alexander350 and flags_alexander350
	**		copied folders units and flags from AoT:P
	**		also folders dice, doc, misc, PUs, resources and sounds
	**		renamed map.properties to map_alexander350.properties and copied map.properties from AoT:P
	** expected error with test: No player named: Carthage,   for: TerritoryAttachment
	** .003 comment out all <option name="capitan" value="x"/> because players are changed
	--> <!-- example -->
	<!-- <option name="capital" value="Carthage"/> -->
	<!-- end example --> <!--
	**		7 changes made
	**		also commented out all CanalAttachment
	**		also conditions and triggers which refference a territory of sea zone
	**		alse commented out <ownerInitialize> and  all <unitPlacement> under <unitInitialize>
	** 		add <heldUnits> in <unitInitialize>
			<heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Brittonic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Celtic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Germanic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Romanic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Baltic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Hellenic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Slavic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Hattic" quantity="10"/>
            <heldUnits unitType="Caveman" player="Barbarians" quantity="50"/>
	** for testing purposes only added random start delegate
			<delegate name="randomStartDelegate" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.delegate.RandomStartDelegate" display="Pregame Nation Placements"/>
	** also added setup after initialize
			<step name="setupRandomStartDelegate" delegate="randomStartDelegate" display="Pregame Nation Placements" maxRunCount="1"/>
	** and game property for ramdom setup
			<property name="Territories Are Assigned Randomly" value="true" editable="true">
				<boolean/>
			</property>		
	-->

Cheers...

Ted Self

@wc_sumpton What am I looking at here? What software is it?

wc_sumpton

@ted-self

I attempted the merger, as I understood you were doing. What is presented is the comment section at the top of the xml. There is no special software, I just used a 'code box' to highlight the xml from normal entry.

Cheers...

Ted Self

@wc_sumpton Still confused, is it from notepad++ or the built in triplea game maker? I am starting to wonder if I should just start from scratch and use triplea map creator part 2? Also thanks to you and everyone trying to help and happy 4th of July to you all.

wc_sumpton

@ted-self

Yes, I do use Notepad++. It is only an editor and doesn't build an xml.

Cheers...

RogerCooper

@ted-self It easier to fix issues than to start from scratch. I have fixed many scenarios, if you keeping on plugging away the issues, you can fix them. Try to use an editor that understands XML syntax.

The different age of tribes XML's only differ in their setup, so it doesn't matter which one you use.

If you are getting frustrated at this, try modifying an existing XML to get a better feel for the process.

Ted Self

@wc_sumpton How did you get notepad++ to attempt the merger? Did the error list just appear at the top of the page?

Ted Self

@rogercooper Mr. Cooper, I have been stumped on this latest error message when I try to launch the game for almost 2 days now.

XML Copy editor is no help because it claims the xml is well formed. Please have a look at the AgeWorld.xml at https://github.com/tedrockets/triplea/tree/main Thanks in advance.

wc_sumpton

@ted-self

Notepad++ is just a text editor, and cannot merge xml's. The section not wanted are deleted. The section that are wanted are copied and pasted. What I did was probably the same thing that you did, documenting the steps I preformed at the top of the xml.

Cheers...

Ted Self

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Ted Self

@ted-self Above is the image I meant to upload.

TheDog

@Ted-Self
I too use Notepad++
you can do this

.
Meaning you can copy and paste from one xml (left) into another (right).

Also you can have many files open at the same time. (see the tabs)

XML Copy Editor probably can do the same.

RogerCooper

@ted-self said in Trying to put age of tribes engine on alexander 350 world map:

@ted-self

It means exactly what it says, there is reference to a resource called "Tech" but "Tech" is not on the resource list. Remove the references or add the resource. This could also be a capitalization issue or a name issue, maybe techToken was meant.

RogerCooper

@rogercooper @rogercooper I looked the XML and confirmed that the issue is the resource is called "techToken " but is referenced as "Tech".

Ted Self

@rogercooper Yes, you got me going again chasing down errors when trying to launch. Now I am trying to change the name of every country and sea zone so the nukes can go off in each one of them. It looks like it will take many hours and even days to get that done, But I don't see any reason to be discouraged. I was thinking there for a while that maybe the project was too ambitious.

RogerCooper

@ted-self You may want to use a program that allows you to replace text in multiple files like File Monk.

Why do you need to change area names to set off nukes?

My experience with Age of Tribes is that it is somewhat dull. Units may have interesting names, but they tend to be the same old units with somewhat better stats. You may want to increase unit differentiation especially with higher movement allowances.

What makes A&A/TripleA interesting is the unbalanced starting positions and things like delayed entry. The combat model lacks sufficient detail to be interesting in and off itself.

Ted Self

@rogercooper Well, here is a sample
<attachment name="conditionAttachment-Atomic-Corsica" attachTo="AI" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
<option name="directPresenceTerritories" value="Corsica" count="1"/>
<option name="unitPresence" value="Nuke-Explosion" count="1"/>

So I have to change Corsica to a name that is on the Alexander350 world map like Turkmenistan etc otherwise an error is produced when I try to start the game.

Ted Self

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