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    • prastleP Offline
      prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
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      @hepps and here I thought it was your love of TripleA and Red 🙂

      If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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      • General_ZodG Offline
        General_Zod Moderators @Hepps
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        @hepps Nice, This is already a huge improvement on existing in-game interface.

        I propose even the mini-map be collapsible, and the command tabs be their own section.

        The customizable aspect would be a big hit with players for sure. Players can decide for themselves, what is important in any particular phase of the game.

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          prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod
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          @general_zod yup brilliant minds all of yas!

          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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          • HeppsH Offline
            Hepps Moderators @General_Zod
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            @general_zod This was how I was seeing it...

            0_1516821264674_Proposed interface changes Draft 4.jpg

            0_1516821288005_Proposed interface changes Draft 5.jpg

            And as a comparison... the black shaded area is what is currently obscured.

            0_1516821648077_Proposed interface changes Draft 6 comparative.jpg

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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              Hepps Moderators @redrum
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              @redrum said in Taking your suggestions for a new UI:

              @hepps Can I have your children?

              Not sure on the whole consumable bar concept though...

              I realize that the consume bar is not a widely conceptualized idea at this point.... simply because resource consumption as part of the movement process is in so few games currently. But this is, at least in part, due to a series of inter-related factors...

              1. Few games have it within the game because...

              2. the few games which include it have not been worked on/refined to improve its implementation within the game because...

              3. The lack of an easy way to track (visually) what you are "burning" through during moves... makes the games that have it included frustrating from a resource management perspective.... making it an undesirable feature (self fulfilling prophecy) which will all but guarantee...

              4. Without developing a mechanism (Which under how I have proposed it, would create no additional clutter for games that do not have it) there is little to absolutely no chance of creating a game with fuel/consumption/maintenance integrated successfully.

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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              • HeppsH Offline
                Hepps Moderators @General_Zod
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                @general_zod said in Taking your suggestions for a new UI:

                @Hepps

                Also wondering, if the "Select Map", "Open Saved Game", "Download Maps" and "Map Options" buttons will be located somewhere else?

                Actually all the information on that window is useful, would like to see the info in top left remain somewhere.

                Sorry Zod I think I missed a bit of your comment here. Yes since this game launch screen is such a huge part of the game interface.... I am striving to change as little as possible other than the appearance.

                Here is a mock up of the entire screen...
                0_1516833547845_Game Launch full page view.jpg

                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                Hepster

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                • General_ZodG Offline
                  General_Zod Moderators @Hepps
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                  @hepps

                  Cool, yeah as the menu goes. I agree, we should keep all the functionality and information that the current version has, intact.

                  It's coming together nicely.

                  I must admit the in-game interface is much more exciting. Hopefully that project comes to fruition as well.

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                    Hepps Moderators @General_Zod
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                    @general_zod Agree the prospect of finally giving the in-game interface a face lift really puts a cucumber in my pants...

                    Is it obvious I might have had some materials ready to go for that at the mere mention of it? 😃

                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                    Hepster

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                    • General_ZodG Offline
                      General_Zod Moderators @Hepps
                      last edited by General_Zod

                      @hepps lol, it's a wet dream come true. 😉

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                      • alkexrA Offline
                        alkexr @Hepps
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                        @hepps First impression is that there is too much distracting detail / looks a bit messy. I would maybe try to blur / darken the main menu background behind the player selection window. If that's not enough, remove the icon and the "D.S.S. Form 6" (whatever that is supposed to mean). The visual style is awesome though.

                        "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                        • redrumR Offline
                          redrum Admin @Hepps
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                          @hepps Hmm. And here I always thought all Canadians dreamed about Celine Dion not Jessica Biel... Though she's probably also the only famous Canadian I know. She's also a bit more in your age range though that might be less than optimal for carrying children...

                          TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                            Hepps Moderators @redrum
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                            @redrum Thus the request for 100 tries.

                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                              beelee @alkexr
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                              @alkexr I wonder how much effect the "look and feel" will provide ? I know you can change it quite a bit right now. Maybe have some different camo colors or something ?

                              I like the way this site does it. I go with the "Darkly" as I don't like it too bright : )

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                              • redrumR Offline
                                redrum Admin @Hepps
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                                @hepps Oh and my dislike of the resource bar is more on how I've seen maps potentially use fuel. If its something that you have a set amount per turn then I think a bar makes sense (I believe this is actually what Frostion ended up doing in Iron Wars). He essentially zeroes out any extra and you spend whatever you produce each turn. But most other maps have used it where you can stockpile and having a resource bar then doesn't really make sense to me as you don't have an "amount per turn".

                                TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                • RoiEXR Offline
                                  RoiEX Admin
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                                  The sad part about all of this is how long this is going to take to implement 😅
                                  While the image is done "relatively quickly" I need to consider much more things when trying to re-create the design in actual code/FXML to keep the layout adaptable to different screen sizes and actually clickable, not to mention all the internal wiring of the code.
                                  A nice UI that doesn't do anything is not that great either ^^
                                  Anyways I appreciate the discussion here about how the UI should look like i.e. what exact components it should have in its final state, this takes off the burden from me to be responsible to make good UI decisions ^^

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                                  • redrumR Offline
                                    redrum Admin @RoiEX
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                                    @roiex Now you have enough material for like a year worth of development already 🙂

                                    TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                    • RoiEXR Offline
                                      RoiEX Admin @redrum
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                                      @redrum Definitely seems like it ^^
                                      But it's easier to re-create a pre-existent template than coming up with a template on your own and then creating it 😉

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                                        Hepps Moderators @RoiEX
                                        last edited by Hepps

                                        @roiex Well not to worry... you say your bored... I can keep you occupied for decades.

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                        • prastleP Offline
                                          prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
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                                          @hepps gigglez 🙂

                                          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                            beelee @Hepps
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                                            @hepps said in Taking your suggestions for a new UI:

                                            @roiex Well not to worry... you say your bored... I can keep you occupied for decades.

                                            lol I can already thank you for a few years I'm sure : )

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