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    Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario

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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators
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      @redrum For your consideration...

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      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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        @Hepps I dig it.

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          @Hepps Maybe you want to consult a period atlas for the cities population, to decide what is getting the urban terrain? Like Tsaritsyn was really a minor city, while Kiev was a very big one, if I recall correctly. Also, I cannot recall the "Tcherniov" name, if it is not a different way to spell "Chernigov" (I guess not, since they are both there).

          I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

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            @Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:

            @Hepps
            I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

            Fwiw I agree. Maybe something really dynamic will still pop up : )

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              @Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:

              @Hepps Maybe you want to consult a period atlas for the cities population, to decide what is getting the urban terrain? Like Tsaritsyn was really a minor city, while Kiev was a very big one, if I recall correctly.

              Not all of the selections are done based on historical significance or accuracy. Sometimes game-play will take the front seat to an adherence to accuracy. Tsaritsyn is better positioned to help out the Tsarist Russian cause by being better positioned as a fall back place to combat Central aggression rather than increasing Kiev's significance in the game. I chose to lump the more significant production capacity in with Odessa as the region contained the naval production for Russia along with the city of Mykolaiv.

              Also, I cannot recall the "Tcherniov" name, if it is not a different way to spell "Chernigov" (I guess not, since they are both there).

              No idea... I put it out to the community and this is what I got back.

              I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

              I like both!

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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                Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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                @Hepps Ok, but I can easily see a number of people asking themselves "Why is Kiev not a city?".

                Anyways, in case it may be helpful, here are all the cities with 100,000 people or more in the Russian Empire (according to a 1920 atlas of mine) for 1913, except 1915 for Petrograd, 1916 for Moscow, and 1914 or 1910 of some other cities, in thousands:

                Europe:
                Petrograd: 2,319
                Moscow: 1,817
                Warsaw: 789
                Odessa: 631
                Kiev: 626
                Riga: 569
                Lodz: 416
                Kharkov: 258
                Saratov: 236
                Yekaterinoslav: 220
                Rostov: 205
                Vilnius: 204
                Kazan: 195
                Ivanovo-Suessensk: 168
                Astrakhan: 164
                Orenburg: 147
                Samara: 144
                Tula: 141
                Reval: 138
                Kishinev: 129
                Yaroslavl: 120
                Minsk: 118
                N.Novgorod: 112
                Dvinsk: 111
                Vitebsk: 109
                Nikolayev: 106
                Ufa: 106
                Perm: 105
                Goumel: 105
                Tsaritsyn: 101
                Asia:
                Tiflis: 328
                Tashkent: 272
                Baku: 237
                Omsk: 136
                Irkutsk: 130
                Saliany: 121
                Kokand: 119
                Tomsk: 117
                Yekaterinodar: 107

                (I don't recognize Saliany)

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                  @Cernel I'm just not sure that population data alone is a measure of a cities signifinance... unless you are utilizing a separate resource such as manpower.

                  While I get your complaint regarding Kiev... I am less worried about how many people will have a decidedly unfavorable reaction versus my decision to make Odessa the powerful territory in the region to support naval production as a counter measure to swift Ottoman dominance. While also forcing the territory to do double duty vs the German and Austro pressure.

                  Perhaps if Kievians? Kievinites? Kievisarians? start spamming the thread en-mass... I will reconsider my position.

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                    Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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                    @Hepps Ah, also, not sure if the ownerships definitions are waiting for the release, but for that portion all is good except Lviv, or rather Leopolis or Lemberg, that should be part of Austria-Hungary. Also this way the borders would look more like the historical shape, since Russian Poland was bulgy like that, and Lviv seems to clearly capture the Galician border with Russia. This would require changing the name of Galicia to something else, tho.

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                      Schulz
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                      Did you value Ottoman territories if yes can I see a screenshot?

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                        Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                        @Schulz Yes all territory valuations are complete.

                        However I think we shall save the remaining screen shots for the release. Between the starting financial and military distribution as well as the seasonal effects... I want you to have something to be excited about. 😃

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                          But here is a screenshot from a less significant area of the globe...

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                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                            Just a little update... with all the basic stuff done this map is now moving into the final phases of development...

                            Get ready to get your Diplomacy on... it's gett'n hot in here!

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                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                              Teaser...

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                              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                              Hepster

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                                A blessed day off... so I work on something other than work...

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                                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                Hepster

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                                  @Hepps this is looking very interesting 🙂

                                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                    Hepps Moderators @ubernaut
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                                    @ubernaut Glad to see we've got your attention. 😃

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                      Even the neutral Italians are ready for the inevitable war to come...

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                                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                      Hepster

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                                        Austro Hungarians on the move...

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                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                          @Hepps "Northern Hungarian Plains" is very much to the east of Budapest, as is the rest of the Hungarian Plains. To the west, the Transdanubia region is mostly covered in little hills and valleys (not big enough for a territory effect). A better but still mildly strange name would be "Nortern Carpathian Basin" (?) or even just "Northern Hungary", although Budapest touching Transylvania is upsettingly weird regardless of naming. They're nearly two hundred miles apart. c7b19396-36c9-4ebe-a471-9c0c525f5349-image.png
                                          But a rare and biased phenomenon called a "Hungarian eye" might percieve what makes an interesting game as disturbing...

                                          "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                            @alkexr I agree that the placement is a bit wonky...

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                                            When you really look at it the issue is how I had to "persuade" Budapest to being in Southern Hungary based on how the original map was created. (Bear in mind I simply altered this map to the best of my abilities without starting from scratch). I was trying to stop the Austrians from having 2 high PU value territories (with established production facilities) directly connected.

                                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                            Hepster

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