How to modify borders on an existing map

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
You need to change Croatia to Yugoslavia in these files;
centers.txt
place.txt
polygons.txt
pu_place.txt

Add Northern & Southern Italy to pu_place.txt

Change Italy to Southern Italy? in vc.txt

In the xml
5157 Change Italy to Northern Italy
5617 Change Italy to Northern Italy
10021 Change Italy to Northern Italy
17730 Change Italy to Northern Italy

There are more but I will let you sort those out.

Post the file set again if you get stuck.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

Uuuu i've missed a lot!

I done it now like you said, yeah i missed a lot of stuff lol.

Unfortunately it still shows the same error message

I just triple checked all txt files and xml with a search function, didn't find a single 'Italy, 'East Prussia', 'Croatia' or 'Sakhalin', everything is changed into appropriate new territory names. Of course except the Italy player, i didn't rename the player. I also fixed some border connections because i noticed i didn't have Southern Italy connected to any territories, im not sure if that impacts running the map but i've fixed that, and it still doesnt' run the map.

My lack of experience shows but im doing my best. I think it will take me a while to understand all this regarding the xml editing but once i get it down ill be good to go.

Here i uploaded a folder again, whenever you have time check it out and let me know what i should do
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1d4lOQ2CbHLe_YhN-n6Gy3XuAaWHuE6lX?usp=share_link

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
Hey, you are new to this and it is a steep learning curve, keep going, and will become a pro like me.

xml coding is complicated, there are so many inter linking elements to it.

Search for the hi-lighted text below, the Italy is part of a condition and trigger
line 7161is a Territory (not player/nation) so needs adding a Northern or Southern prefix.
directPresenceTerritories" value="Italy
The above is paired with line 10023

There will probably be more errors like this.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

Ah okay i see.

Should i also change the 'directPresenceTerritories' to Northern/Southern Italy as well?

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
Doh, yes I was not clear.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

How did you get that error report? This could be useful for me so i can know where the problem is.

Mine just tells about the error in data centers and nothing else specific.

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
I have 3 versions of TripleA on my PC, all should give the same error message.
But this came from TripleA-2.5.22294

Sometimes its best to close TripleA and restart it.

The error text varies with each error.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

Does the 'Capital' refer to the territory or the player/nation?

Yea my version of TripleA doesn't show any useful information in error, i can't know where the problem is, it just says what the problem is.

The confusing thing in this case is that 'Italy' was a territory and a player, so it's hard to figure out what it actually refers to hah

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić

Does the 'Capital' refer to the territory or the player/nation?

Player/nation

.

The confusing thing in this case is that 'Italy' was a territory and a player, so it's hard to figure out what it actually refers to hah

Agreed.

I would download another version, to see if that gives you more/some error messages.

TripleA-2.5.22294
https://triplea-game.org/download/
or
version 2.6+
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases

I add the version number to the end of the install and the folder to identify it.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

Wait, i have 2.5.22294 hahah

This is how my errors look over and over again while trying to run this

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
Send me a link to the file set later this evening, I look at it tomorrow morning.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

here you go
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1d4lOQ2CbHLe_YhN-n6Gy3XuAaWHuE6lX?usp=share_link

[beelee]

@davor-pavlić open your TripleA folder and you'll see "error.log"

That should give you some more info. Once you can get the game to actually run, go to the "Debug" top left and hit "Show Console"

That will also provide more ingame info.

I think there's a thing called a "stacktrace" that has the error info but I don't remember how to do it

[TheDog]

@Davor-Pavlić
in the xml
line 5420
need to add block of code for Eastern Poland

line 5426-ish
need to add block of code for Southern Italy

Then for me it ran without error.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

YAAAH i finally got it to work!!

So it seemed like changing the things you mentioned wasn't enough, i had an original iron_war downloaded as well, and those two folders were probably messing eachother up because those folders were named the same lol, i never even paid attention to it, but yeah, it is very likely that the problem was the naming of the folders.

What i did was i deleted the original iron war, and i unzipped my mod and removed 'master' from the name, and that did the trick, after that i managed to run it.

The baseTile works, buuuut the lines are all weird, the line widths, why is that? The outlines in my map are thicker but when i run it in TripleA some are thinner and some wider.

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
GONGRATS !!!

Well done, you got there.

As you have realised its very important not to have a conflit of similar naming maps. I find it better to cut and paste maps that are very similar to another folder for "storage" and reference.

I really like Notepad++ as you can have reference files on the left and current project on the right.

Back to your game/map.

You probably know this
View> Show Map Details Turns reliefTiles off/on On can completely over-write baseTiles
View> Show Map Blends Shows an alternative "shade" of the reliefTiles map, the parameters are held in map.properties file

Hopefully this helps explain the difference in your views/TT border thicknesses.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

Oh right, i forgot about that.

One more question and im done for today.

How do i move the PU icons on the map?

For example take a look at Albania in my screenshot above. I would like to center a PU icon in the territory. I tried going in the centers picker in TripleA so i can find the right coordinates, and i typed those coordinates in pu_place for Albania, but it didnt move the icon in the slightest.

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
Never say,

One more question and im done for today.

As there will be more

How do i move the PU icons on the map?

Yes pu_place.txt is the file to edit, did you restart TripleA as some files are dynamic, like xml save and load the map they work, other changes require TripleA to be restarted.

Some maps have the PU embedded on the reliefTiles like the 2 Shogun maps.

[Davor Pavlić]

@thedog

This is it boys and gals, after about a week, i have a modified map with reliefTiles. Few weeks ago this kind of thing seemed absolutely impossible for me to ever do, and now i've learned so much in just a week thanks to this amazingly helpful community!

This is the current state of the map in-game, with reliefTiles

Is it perfect? Absolutely not, actually it's probably far from done. As of now, i will have to change the pu icons on the map and unit placing, some smaller territories like Albania and Southern Italy get crowded after 4 units placed. Well there is no avoiding it, TTs are just that small, but ill fine-tune it as much as possible. And ill have to move that capital icon for Italy further down, tbh i don't even know why i changed it's coordinates, most likely by accident.

I didn't experiment a lot of with relief outline width resulting in borders being this thick, but ill change it.

Will i change anything else to the map? Maybe. Maybe add Malta, maybe add Falklands, maybe fine-tune some territories like Kuwait and British Somaliland make them bit smaller because they weren't that huge.

I could easily just call it a day and use this map for myself, but i will look forward that this mod reaches a certain playable standard so that everyone can enjoy it. Technically this map isn't done, so i don't think i would like to close this thread and open a new one in Maps & Mods, atleast not until i make a fully playable version for testing and balacing.

Thanks to everyone who is contributing to my project, even though it's not a big deal to some, it means a lot to me.

For any further questions and issues i guess i will just keep asking here lol

[TheDog]

@davor-pavlić
It works.

Backup your folder
To make your units smaller, in the map.properties is this;
units.scale=1
units.width=60
units.height=54

Change the unit scale to .75 (Save it)

Then run Map creator Tools
Step 2: Map Utilities
Run the Automatic Placement Finder
OK (Info panel)
iron_war (folder name)
File Suggestion answer No
0.75 (Scaling)
61 (60px width +1px padding or more)
55 (54px height +1px padding or more)
This take minutes to complete, go and have a coffee.
Save the place.txt