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    • TheDog
      TheDog last edited by TheDog

      Curated Best/Top Maps

      Below is a list of curated maps to help players pick a map from the 300+ available.

      • Please suggest ways to make it better.
      • The list is subjective and some people will not agree with the listings, but something is better than nothing. 🙄
      • The idea is to try and keep it to the best/top 5 maps in each group, (this might change) except the Axis & Allies group
      • The list is just a starting point and open to change.
        .
        Emoji and their meaning in the maps
        🤼 Meant for PvP, Player v Player
        1⃣ Meant for Solo play with a good playing AI, using FastAI or HardAI (more considered, but slower game play)
        🗺 Has a good looking map
        ↔ Huge pixel map designed for 2k & 4K screens
        🤔 More than just a fight. The mapmaker has spent serious time/effort to give immersion/depth/campaign feel

      Guides
      ▪ Tutorial - for players new to TripleA and its game engine.
      ▪ https://github.com/triplea-maps/the_pact_of_steel Pact of Steel & Pact of Steel 2 that has extensive help text for map makers and is used to demonstrate engine features
      ▪ http://www.starlords3k.com/XOB.html - online help for xml map makers


      Axis & Allies style

      Emoji TripleA map A&A Year Published A&A Boardgame
      🤼🗺↔ UHD World War II Global 2010 Global 1940 - 2nd Edition
      🤼 World War II Classic 1986 Classic - 2nd Edition Rules
      🤼 World War II Classic 3rd Edition 1999 Classic - 3rd Edition Rules (A&A Iron Blitz VG)
      🤼 World War II Revised 2004 Revised
      🤼 World War II Revised LHTR 2004 Revised - Larry Harris Tournament Rules
      🤼 World War II v3 1941 2008 50th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Scenario
      🤼 World War II v3 1942 2008 50th Anniversary Edition - 1942 Scenario
      🤼 World War II v4 2009 1942 - First Edition
      🤼 World War II Global 1940 Original 2010 Global 1940 - 1st Edition
      🤼 World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition 2010 Global 1940 - 2nd Edition
      🤼 World War II v5 1942 Second Edition 2012 1942 - Second Edition
      🤼 World War II v6 1941 2012 1941

      Ancient-Medieval.(pre 1450)
      ▪ 270BC Wars
      ▪ Rome Total War


      Early Modern......(1451-1764)
      ▫🗺▫▫ Caribbean Trade War
      1⃣🗺↔🤔 Shogun Advanced – Immersive campaign
      1⃣🗺↔▫ The Shogun – little brother of above
      ▫🗺🤔▫ Twelve-Clans - has a vassal system


      Revolutionary.…(1765-1869)
      🤼🤔 Civil War
      🤼🗺 Napoleonic Empires


      WW1.....................(1870-1930)
      ▪ Battle of Jutland - Fleet action, Stacking limits the number of ships per hex
      🤼 Domination 1914 No Mans Land - interesting trench/gas mechanics along with simple tech system
      🤼 Over the Top


      WW2-Global…...(1931-1945)

      Emoji Game/map Locations Dice min Ver Resources Features
      1⃣🗺↔▫▫▫ 1941 Global Command Decision 796 d6 2.7 PU Stacking limits by unit type, Land=20, Air & Sea=10, Sea Zones generate PU, HQ type units, terrain types, 4 'Factory' types, non-standard A&A units, programmed Tech, move 3 invisible railways
      🤼 Big World & Big World Variations 264 d6 1.5 PU
      🤼🗺 Iron War 535 d10 1.9 PU, fuel, iron, Colonial, SS, pilots, Commissars Fuel consumption, Iron Colonial recruitment, SS recruitment, Kamikaze Japanese Pilots, Russian Commissars, programmed Tech
      🤼🗺🤔 Total World War 485 d12 1.9 PU, techTokens tech research, trains, minor nations, terrain types, lend lease, lots of unit types with AA & support attachments
      🤼🗺 World At War 538 d6 1.9 PU, techTokens tech research
      🤼🗺 WWII Oil & Snow 427 d6 1.9 PU, Fuel Fuel consumption, Simulates winter

      WW2-Europe…..(1931-1945)
      ▪ Iron War Europe
      ▪ New World Order


      WW2-Pacific…..(1931-1945)
      ▪ The Rising Sun
      ▪ World War II Pacific


      WW2-Alternate (1931-1945)
      ▪ G40 Alt Universe - "The war is the same, but occurs in an alternate universe"
      ▪ The Grand War


      Nuclear………….(1946-2100)
      ▪ Camp David
      ▪ Cold War
      ▪ Cold War 1965


      Future...................(2100+)
      🤼↔ Gundam - One Year War
      🗺▫ Star Trek Dilithium War
      🗺▫ Star Wars Galactic War
      🗺▫ Star Wars Tatooine War
      🗺▫ Twilight Imperium


      Fantasy
      ▫▫ Arena of Death – 4-6 Heroes fight it out gladiator style, has 4 wound Warrior with health bars, Stacking limits the number of heroes per hex
      🗺▫ Dragon War - some randomized placements, several resource types, lots of AI barbarian nations
      🤔▫ Greyhawk Wars - Heroes, lots of events, has a clever mechanic - Stack Tax
      🗺▫ Middle Earth: Battle for Arda
      🗺🤔 Warcraft War Heroes - lots of random placed items to collect to make your heroes better


      Abstract-Alternate
      ▪ Age of Tribes - Ages of Primeval, Classical, Renaissance, Cold_War, Modern - innovative tech system that the AI can use
      ▪ Jurassic - Yes Dinosaurs
      ▪ Steampunk Advanced
      🤔 War of the Relics - A campaign


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      • RogerCooper
        RogerCooper @TheDog last edited by

        @thedog I would suggest adding Steampunk-Advanced, The Grand War and Ultimate Pants.

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        • TheDog
          TheDog @RogerCooper last edited by

          Added those maps

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            beelee @TheDog last edited by

            @thedog since it's for new players, maybe throw the tutorial in there ?

            nice work 🙂

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            • jkprince
              jkprince @TheDog last edited by

              @thedog some suggestions

              • quality of AI play, even if the map is not made to specifically do player vs AI. Include info on if map has settings which make mechanics more basic to improve AI performance.

              • time to play / complexity ratings. Not sure how this could be measured, probably the time to play the first round through, and the average length of a full game start to finish.

              • basic info on the unit types for purchase in each game

              • basic info on what nations are playable, categories...
                Majors: a few large nations (UK, Germany, Japan, USA, USSR, etc) with mids/minors clumped into them (i.e Italy being lumped into Germany in older A&A versions)
                .
                Mids: Majors plus a few middle powers (Italy, ANZAC, China, etc) also possibly including minor powers that have been clumped together (Puppet_States being combo of FinlandRomaniaHungaryBulgariaVichy, etc)
                .
                Minors: All sorts of countries playable (Finland, Romania, Thailand, etc) also possibly including even non-country factions (Japan being split between their Army and their Navy in World At War)

              • politics information / status of neutrals, categories...
                None: Neutrals are same as impassable territories / politics are pretty much unchanging
                .
                Basic: Single-type Neutrals, invadable by either side / politics changes based on triggers/conditions
                .
                Intermediate: G40-style multi-type Neutrals, some Pro-Axis/Alllied. Politics has some player interaction but is largely a sideshow
                .
                Complex: More varied neutrals, possibly even "neutral powers" that can be brought on side with politics (TWW style). Politics is a major and integral part of the gameplay

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              • TheDog
                TheDog @jkprince last edited by

                @joseph-prince
                The reason for this thread is because Map Tags are not going to be implemented anytime soon.
                https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2801/map-tags-for-release-2-6/19

                Map Tags has 109+ posts and maybe/finally had a consensus.

                However, this thread is my attempt to give players a head start on the 300+ maps and give them a starting point in their favoured period, then they can make up their minds on what they like.

                I might add a few more Emojis, suggestions welcome, to group maps, but wanted to keep the current white space for text, like Age of Tribes.

                @beelee
                Good call and I have expanded it 😁

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                  beelee @TheDog last edited by

                  @thedog said in Curated Best/Top Maps & TripleA Guides:

                  are not going to be implemented anytime soon.

                  😁 😁 😁

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                  • TheDog
                    TheDog @beelee last edited by

                    Added to the 1st post, how the TripleA maps, relate to A&A board games.

                    Link 1st post
                    https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                    • RogerCooper
                      RogerCooper @TheDog last edited by

                      @thedog You might want to add Greyhawk Wars to the Fantasy section.

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                        Cernel Moderators @RogerCooper last edited by

                        @rogercooper said in Curated Best/Top Maps & TripleA Guides:

                        @thedog I would suggest adding Steampunk-Advanced, The Grand War and Ultimate Pants.

                        Never played either, but why Ultimate Pants and not Ultimate War? Besides, are you sure that deserves being considered top quality? I don't remember having ever seen anyone playing Ultimate Pants in the lobby...

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                        • RogerCooper
                          RogerCooper @Cernel last edited by

                          @cernel The different Ultimate scenarios are fairly similar, I am not sure which is the best.

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                          • TheDog
                            TheDog @RogerCooper last edited by

                            Added a new emoji
                            🤔 More than just a fight. The mapmaker has spent serious time/effort to give immersion/depth/campaign feel

                            Link 1st post
                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                              Cernel Moderators @RogerCooper last edited by Cernel

                              @rogercooper I feel that Ultimate World (as well as its variants) is very much belonging to the old times of TripleA and is no longer any popular. I wouldn't have it in top quality also since it has playability issues due to the very small and very crowded territories and the small units, which are sometimes hard to tell apart especially in case of some sea units (now even more serious an issue as we move to 4K monitors). On top of that, it is such a wildly unhistorical game (even by TripleA standards) to have in any historical category. Mostly, I'm feeling that World At War made Ultimate World substantially obsolete: seemingly, Ultimate World players moved to World At War after the latter existed, so having the conceptually very similar Ultimate World and World At War on the same standing does not feel quite right to me in the moment the latter is something like a hundred or maybe even a thousand times more popular than the former as a matter of game played in the lobby. Besides, if there is not a clear best scenario, I think that it would be reasonable the most to have the original one (rather than any variant unless the variant is clearly better).

                              For example, Big World (comprising at least a couple variants, like the sometime somewhat popular NekahNet's 1939), Big World 2 and even the scantly played Pact of Steel (just to cite a bunch of global WW2 games) are definitely more popular than Ultimate World (or any one of its variants) in the lobby, and I'm not even sure that those deserve to be at the top.

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                              • TheDog
                                TheDog @Cernel last edited by TheDog

                                1st post
                                Added
                                Ancient - Rome Total War

                                WW1 - Battle of Jutland -Fleet action, Stacking limits the number of ships per hex

                                Abstract-Alternate - Jurassic - Yes Dinosaurs
                                Abstract-Alternate - War of the Relics - A campaign

                                Replaced
                                Ultimate World Variants (game Ultimate Pants) replace with Big World & Big World Variations

                                Link 1st post
                                https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                • TheDog
                                  TheDog @TheDog last edited by

                                  Added
                                  WW2-Alternate (1931-1945)
                                  ▪ G40 Alt Universe - "The war is the same, but occurs in an alternate universe"

                                  Link 1st post
                                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                    TheDog @TheDog last edited by TheDog

                                    Added more data to the 1st post for WW2-Global…...(1931-1945) including dice used, minimum TripleA version and Resources
                                    as this is the most popular period.

                                    Used Markdown tables to improve its look.
                                    https://www.codecademy.com/resources/docs/markdown/tables

                                    Link 1st post
                                    https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                      beelee @TheDog last edited by

                                      @thedog

                                      are you the anoymous contributor 🙂

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                                      • TheDog
                                        TheDog @beelee last edited by

                                        Yes, Sherlock, well deduced. 🙂

                                        I thought I could sneak in a few updates.
                                        Civil War is PvP only
                                        and in the guides put a direct link to PoS2 map, such a good resource
                                        https://github.com/triplea-maps/the_pact_of_steel

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                                        • ubernaut
                                          ubernaut Moderators last edited by

                                          please add total world war 🙂

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                                          • TheDog
                                            TheDog @ubernaut last edited by

                                            @ubernaut
                                            Its already there under the heading
                                            WW2-Global…...(1931-1945)
                                            36ce1514-374f-4cd4-aa55-cf9857d1a1ce-image.png

                                            I have never played it, so if I have missed a vital component or part of the game play please advise.

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