European War
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10 could be a bit high production value for cairo but in dom 1914 no man's land, UK is able to product 10 units againt the Ottomans plus +4 French production but in this map. UK is alone in the Middle east. If I find it unbalanced sure I can reduce it to 8. Or I can decrease total UK power. But 6 could be very low. Because the Otomans starts with 1 battleship+4 cruiser (destroyer) + 4 late fighter+15 land units, UK starts with only 2 infantry.
If I make Serbia more valuable, Rushing Serbia would be only good Austrian tactic but in this situation, Austria can decide to rush Italy or Russia, Austria can also decide to ignore Serbia because it is not very valuable.
No tech because I find it classic tech system is very aleatory.
Upkeep mechanic is simple that designed to prevent huge stacks. I will specify them in the notes.
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@schulz Be careful about the use of upkeep. It favors the attacker as you no longer have the classic A&A situation of the defender building up while the attacker reinforcements need to catch up with the front. You need to compensate the strategic defender with other advantages.
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Upkeep is the only way to prevent stacks. It slighly favours attackers but heavy guns are already exist and trenches do not consume any Pus per rounds.
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Upkeep doesn't prevent stacks. Upkeep doesn't encourage me to spread out my troops, it just limits the total troops. At best, upkeep encourages people to buy more expensive units over cheaper units. The way to reduce people's propensity to stack is for all troops to have some kind of scramble for defense mechanic where troops from adjacent territories contribute to defense.
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@erik542 I think he means absolute stacking, while you mean relative stacking (relative to the total units per player).
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Upkeep is only way to prevent huge stacks. How many unit do we really manage correctly? For example Italy starts with average 90 production power and Italy really does not need to create more units. Big stacks slow down game speed and decrease manageability. Upkeep does not decrease strategic options. Vice versa it increases.
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@schulz Trenches seem rather expensive at 6, considering they are suicide units, with no intrinsic combat capability. I would suggest making them regular units at least.
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I think 6 is good because they have no upkeep.
Also maybe battleships upkeep should be 2. And the Netherlands should be neutral like Albania?
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Since stored money gives no function, the proper strategy is always to build men until you run out of money. All it does is push people to build more expensive men.
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@erik542 Not necessarily. For example, if you have infantry at cost 2 and upkeep 1, while the pricey choices are much more cost inefficient and not well substitutive (not good fodders), even in a 1v1 you may prefer to hold off a few money to buy some infantries more in the future, but I would agree even in such a case it would be quite marginal. Of course, if you have good units choices at high cost/upkeep ratios, this dynamic would all but disappear.
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@schulz I don't see how trenches will be useful, given the ability to destroy all the trenches by moving a single unit in. Don't overestimate the effects of upkeep costs. Units can be burned through pretty quickly. For 6 PU's I can have 1 trench or build a conscript and maintain it for 2 turns. The conscript can move, attack and fire on the defense. The only advantage of the trench is taking 2 hits. And the enemy can sacrifice 1 conscript unit (costing 4) to destroy a trench costing 6.
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Well, conscripts can attack but they can't receive attack bonus like infantry. Sometimes I think that conscript cost should be 3. Because they are also slow. They need trains for to go to fronts.
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2.nd update.
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The trenches are appropriately priced. On NML, they cost the same as infantry and honestly have very similar levels of effectiveness. They're only a bit OP in the early game because you can play 3 per territory per turn instead of one.
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Well I have completed 6 rounds and it is pretty playable and Allies were slighly ahead but they have got some good dices.. Of course I have changed somethings and I would like to upload this load game which contains the first phases of the game.
On the paper allies have +170 Pus advantage but Axis will take more land from France, Romania,Russia and Italy. Also Axis still dominates seas and oceans
Sebia is doomed to fall to Austria in round 3.
Rushing Paris strategy definitely does not work. Also Allies unable to stop early German advantages in the front.
Germany 14 should be 15 or 20 I think and Russia should not start with Warsaw factory.
I am thinking to increase Axis power but I am not sure. But I believe that neither Axis nor Allies have huge advantage in the game.
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AI does not use trains in the map. Is there any way to fix it?
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It is so sad. Also I have noticed that, the AI UK never try to retake her convoy zones. Also the UK buys trains but she never use them.
What is ETA?
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@Schulz I think that the hard/fast AI can actually see and go for convoy zones, at least I see this happening in Iron War. I am not sure how "motivated" the AI is in regards to this.
ETA = Estimated Time for Arrival
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@frostion @Schulz For teaching the AI to use land and air transports, it all depends how much you bribe me
The AI does understand convoy zones as long as they are given a PU value and properly tries to capture them in maps like Iron War and Napoleonic Empires. If they have only a value of other resources or you are doing some sort of national objective with them then the AI won't understand that.
Maybe 
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