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    Red Sun Over China (RSOC) - Official Thread

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    • FrostionF Offline
      Frostion Admin
      last edited by Frostion

      @Hepps Propaganda unit could be inspired by the Command & Conqueror Generals Chinese "propaganda tower"!? I don't know how the specific unit works on the map, but if it is a stationary unit it could be fiting that it was a loudspeaker-tower. 🇹🇼📢🔫📣🇯🇵

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      • HeppsH Offline
        Hepps Moderators @Frostion
        last edited by

        @frostion It is not a stationary unit. To be perfectly honest it is not a very well designed unit at all and is pretty 1 dimensional with little uniqueness or value.

        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
        Hepster

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Moderators
          last edited by Hepps

          @Frostion This was actually the direction I was leaning...

          0_1538867647200_Propaganda alt.png

          0_1538871369246_Communist units.png

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • HeppsH Offline
            Hepps Moderators
            last edited by

            Here is the work of the Japanese...

            0_1538876369080_Japanese units.png

            Kinda struggling with Mobile Infantry for Japan as I am not really sure what this is meant to represent.

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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            • General_ZodG Offline
              General_Zod Moderators @Hepps
              last edited by

              @hepps Probably, mechanized infantry. Suggestion for heavy artillery, remove the shells, since the gun is clearly the big one now.

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                beelee @Hepps
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                @hepps

                Kinda struggling with Mobile Infantry for Japan as I am not really sure what this is meant to represent.

                Maybe have them on bicycles ? Seemed to work in Malaysia : )

                sorry, just a thought : )

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                • redrumR Offline
                  redrum Admin @Hepps
                  last edited by

                  @hepps Overall looks pretty good. A few comments:

                  1. Not a huge fan of the new propaganda unit. To some extent, the name of the unit is questionable as I think it really represents more of a rebellion/uprising. I think I like the fist better than the new alternative.
                  2. One thing that bothers me is the color of the units not being consistent. It looks better in the new sets except the cavalry and train look a bit darker.
                  3. I removed armored trains so you can ignore those.
                  4. Mobile Inf is hard to say but some form of truck is probably most appropriate. I'm generally ok with the existing one.

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                    erik542 @Hepps
                    last edited by

                    @hepps

                    I believe Mobile Infantry represent something like an Armored Personnel Carrier.

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                    • HeppsH Offline
                      Hepps Moderators @redrum
                      last edited by

                      @redrum Yes not all the colouration has been done to my satisfaction either.

                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                      Hepster

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Moderators
                        last edited by

                        The Nationalists...

                        0_1538922452561_Nationalists units.png

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                          Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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                          @hepps Especially for this time period, the elite of the Cinese were the German trained divisions, whose soldiers would look almost exactly like German WWII soldiers (at the start of this game Germany still hadn't recognized Manchukuo as a country, considering that territory as a Japanese occupied part of China, like almost everyone else in the world). But, since eventually German support faded, your image is better for the elite you would purchase some rounds into the game (tho, realistically, the Chinese should just have no Elite, as their elite were still worse than the average German or Japanese soldier, or maybe having elite at start, but unable to buy any more from round 2 onwards, to represent the end of the German collaboration).

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUGxZQRzQOg

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                          • HeppsH Offline
                            Hepps Moderators @Cernel
                            last edited by Hepps

                            @cernel Yeah I had thought along the same lines when I was re-using other designs. Instead I just did a new one...

                            0_1538928008218_Nationalists units new.png

                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                            • FrostionF Offline
                              Frostion Admin
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                              Maybe an easy way to make conscripts visually distinguishable from normal infantry could be to have the unit be an infantryman that stands at attention, for all nations. This would make sense as the conscripts are new and learning 😉 The normal infantry could be an infantryman shooting/running/fighting. And an elite could be kneeling, as he is a veteran and knows when to duck or hide 😁

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                              • HeppsH Offline
                                Hepps Moderators @Frostion
                                last edited by

                                @frostion That is what I have been doing.

                                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                Hepster

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                                  Cernel Moderators @Frostion
                                  last edited by

                                  On this regard, they should really be upgrades of the cheaper one, like in Civil War. I'm like 99% sure this is what pulicat would have done too, had the option existed at the time. On this matter, I believe only units that didn't move on the turn should be upgradable (or having a property for that) (and can't move after being upgraded, in case of uncommon phase orders).

                                  @Hepps If you are going to do that for all powers, then I'd surely remove the elite symbol (also, you can use icons for it, even if to be always displayed).

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                                    Cernel Moderators @General_Zod
                                    last edited by

                                    @general_zod said in Red Sun Over China (RSOC) - Official Thread:

                                    Suggestion for heavy artillery, remove the shells, since the gun is clearly the big one now.

                                    If the shell is an icon, @redrum could decide if he wants it or not after all is there.

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                                      Hepps Moderators @Cernel
                                      last edited by

                                      @cernel This just the design phase. All I am doing is setting up stuff. Better to have something and not need it, rather than to need it and not have it.

                                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                      Hepster

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                                      • HeppsH Offline
                                        Hepps Moderators
                                        last edited by

                                        Next up! Yours and all of our favorite puppet state... Manchukwo!!!!

                                        0_1539115845391_Manchu.png

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                          mattbarnes
                                          last edited by

                                          Hey. Thanks for correcting the faults in the code. Amazing that you're still working on refreshing the units - thanks! Are you still considering changes to rules/balance or is the pipeline all cosmetic?

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                                            mattbarnes
                                            last edited by

                                            BTW the Unit Help is confusing in saying that artillery aids allied units as if all units are supportable. But only some are. Also Commandos are not apparently Supportable per the Game Notes, whereas they used to be supportable in the original.

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