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    Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario

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    • HeppsH Offline
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      For those with a taste for the Russian nesting Dolls...

      Tsarn't home yet.png

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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        I see Austria starts without Galicia, Vojvodina and Northern Tyrol. Germany has no Alsace-Lorraine. What is the reason just wondering.

        BTW Dom 1914 had another issue imho which is Austria's tendency of becoming more powerful than Germany due to lame income distribution. A good WW1 map definitely shouldn't let this kind of results because games become extremely broken when Austrians (and sometimes even Ottomans) becomes stronger than Germany which was very common because Entente is easily able to rush Germany and ignore other fronts and in this case Entente wins always no matter how strong Austrians-Ottomans.

        First I really recommend making Western and Italian Fronts more valuable than Eastern front and making Baltics more valuable than Ukraine (Although very unrealistic but for balance/playability purpose).

        Going West-East or balanced manner should be equally good for Centrals. Both in Dom 1914 and Great war rushing east is definitely the best one and it makes maps predictable for me.

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          @Schulz Some of the cover image may not have been accurate to the starting set up of the actual map.

          The income distribution has changed significantly.

          Italy is neutral at the start of the game... where they end up or who's side they join for the players to determine.

          The rest you are just going to have to wait for.

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • HeppsH Offline
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            Just another little teaser...

            Central Europe example.png

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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            • HeppsH Offline
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              Another little snippet... Perhaps Moses can part the Red Sea... but the Ottomans... that's another story.

              Red Sea Example.png

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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              • SchulzS Offline
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                Wouldn't getting Italy be game changer for both sides? Can a game be balanced with CP Italy and Entente Italy at the same time?

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                • HeppsH Offline
                  Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                  @Schulz Have you read my signature?

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                  • HeppsH Offline
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                    A look at the Malaysian Peninsula with all the finishing touches...

                    Orient finished example.png

                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                    Hepster

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                    • HeppsH Offline
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                      Wee bit of an alteration to the seasonal display... added shadowed empty boxes to make it easier to distinguish which seasonal effects are in each territory.

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                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                      Hepster

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                        @redrum For your consideration...

                        treaty of Brest-Litovsk triggers.png

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                        • redrumR Offline
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                          @Hepps I dig it.

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                            @Hepps Maybe you want to consult a period atlas for the cities population, to decide what is getting the urban terrain? Like Tsaritsyn was really a minor city, while Kiev was a very big one, if I recall correctly. Also, I cannot recall the "Tcherniov" name, if it is not a different way to spell "Chernigov" (I guess not, since they are both there).

                            I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

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                              @Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:

                              @Hepps
                              I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

                              Fwiw I agree. Maybe something really dynamic will still pop up : )

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                                @Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:

                                @Hepps Maybe you want to consult a period atlas for the cities population, to decide what is getting the urban terrain? Like Tsaritsyn was really a minor city, while Kiev was a very big one, if I recall correctly.

                                Not all of the selections are done based on historical significance or accuracy. Sometimes game-play will take the front seat to an adherence to accuracy. Tsaritsyn is better positioned to help out the Tsarist Russian cause by being better positioned as a fall back place to combat Central aggression rather than increasing Kiev's significance in the game. I chose to lump the more significant production capacity in with Odessa as the region contained the naval production for Russia along with the city of Mykolaiv.

                                Also, I cannot recall the "Tcherniov" name, if it is not a different way to spell "Chernigov" (I guess not, since they are both there).

                                No idea... I put it out to the community and this is what I got back.

                                I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

                                I like both!

                                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                Hepster

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                                  Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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                                  @Hepps Ok, but I can easily see a number of people asking themselves "Why is Kiev not a city?".

                                  Anyways, in case it may be helpful, here are all the cities with 100,000 people or more in the Russian Empire (according to a 1920 atlas of mine) for 1913, except 1915 for Petrograd, 1916 for Moscow, and 1914 or 1910 of some other cities, in thousands:

                                  Europe:
                                  Petrograd: 2,319
                                  Moscow: 1,817
                                  Warsaw: 789
                                  Odessa: 631
                                  Kiev: 626
                                  Riga: 569
                                  Lodz: 416
                                  Kharkov: 258
                                  Saratov: 236
                                  Yekaterinoslav: 220
                                  Rostov: 205
                                  Vilnius: 204
                                  Kazan: 195
                                  Ivanovo-Suessensk: 168
                                  Astrakhan: 164
                                  Orenburg: 147
                                  Samara: 144
                                  Tula: 141
                                  Reval: 138
                                  Kishinev: 129
                                  Yaroslavl: 120
                                  Minsk: 118
                                  N.Novgorod: 112
                                  Dvinsk: 111
                                  Vitebsk: 109
                                  Nikolayev: 106
                                  Ufa: 106
                                  Perm: 105
                                  Goumel: 105
                                  Tsaritsyn: 101
                                  Asia:
                                  Tiflis: 328
                                  Tashkent: 272
                                  Baku: 237
                                  Omsk: 136
                                  Irkutsk: 130
                                  Saliany: 121
                                  Kokand: 119
                                  Tomsk: 117
                                  Yekaterinodar: 107

                                  (I don't recognize Saliany)

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                                    @Cernel I'm just not sure that population data alone is a measure of a cities signifinance... unless you are utilizing a separate resource such as manpower.

                                    While I get your complaint regarding Kiev... I am less worried about how many people will have a decidedly unfavorable reaction versus my decision to make Odessa the powerful territory in the region to support naval production as a counter measure to swift Ottoman dominance. While also forcing the territory to do double duty vs the German and Austro pressure.

                                    Perhaps if Kievians? Kievinites? Kievisarians? start spamming the thread en-mass... I will reconsider my position.

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                      @Hepps Ah, also, not sure if the ownerships definitions are waiting for the release, but for that portion all is good except Lviv, or rather Leopolis or Lemberg, that should be part of Austria-Hungary. Also this way the borders would look more like the historical shape, since Russian Poland was bulgy like that, and Lviv seems to clearly capture the Galician border with Russia. This would require changing the name of Galicia to something else, tho.

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                                      • SchulzS Offline
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                                        Did you value Ottoman territories if yes can I see a screenshot?

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                                          @Schulz Yes all territory valuations are complete.

                                          However I think we shall save the remaining screen shots for the release. Between the starting financial and military distribution as well as the seasonal effects... I want you to have something to be excited about. 😃

                                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                          Hepster

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                                          • HeppsH Offline
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                                            But here is a screenshot from a less significant area of the globe...

                                            Gulf example.png

                                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                            Hepster

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