Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario
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@Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:
@Hepps
I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".Fwiw I agree. Maybe something really dynamic will still pop up : )
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@Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:
@Hepps Maybe you want to consult a period atlas for the cities population, to decide what is getting the urban terrain? Like Tsaritsyn was really a minor city, while Kiev was a very big one, if I recall correctly.
Not all of the selections are done based on historical significance or accuracy. Sometimes game-play will take the front seat to an adherence to accuracy. Tsaritsyn is better positioned to help out the Tsarist Russian cause by being better positioned as a fall back place to combat Central aggression rather than increasing Kiev's significance in the game. I chose to lump the more significant production capacity in with Odessa as the region contained the naval production for Russia along with the city of Mykolaiv.
Also, I cannot recall the "Tcherniov" name, if it is not a different way to spell "Chernigov" (I guess not, since they are both there).
No idea... I put it out to the community and this is what I got back.
I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".
I like both!
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@Hepps Ok, but I can easily see a number of people asking themselves "Why is Kiev not a city?".
Anyways, in case it may be helpful, here are all the cities with 100,000 people or more in the Russian Empire (according to a 1920 atlas of mine) for 1913, except 1915 for Petrograd, 1916 for Moscow, and 1914 or 1910 of some other cities, in thousands:
Europe:
Petrograd: 2,319
Moscow: 1,817
Warsaw: 789
Odessa: 631
Kiev: 626
Riga: 569
Lodz: 416
Kharkov: 258
Saratov: 236
Yekaterinoslav: 220
Rostov: 205
Vilnius: 204
Kazan: 195
Ivanovo-Suessensk: 168
Astrakhan: 164
Orenburg: 147
Samara: 144
Tula: 141
Reval: 138
Kishinev: 129
Yaroslavl: 120
Minsk: 118
N.Novgorod: 112
Dvinsk: 111
Vitebsk: 109
Nikolayev: 106
Ufa: 106
Perm: 105
Goumel: 105
Tsaritsyn: 101
Asia:
Tiflis: 328
Tashkent: 272
Baku: 237
Omsk: 136
Irkutsk: 130
Saliany: 121
Kokand: 119
Tomsk: 117
Yekaterinodar: 107(I don't recognize Saliany)
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@Cernel I'm just not sure that population data alone is a measure of a cities signifinance... unless you are utilizing a separate resource such as manpower.
While I get your complaint regarding Kiev... I am less worried about how many people will have a decidedly unfavorable reaction versus my decision to make Odessa the powerful territory in the region to support naval production as a counter measure to swift Ottoman dominance. While also forcing the territory to do double duty vs the German and Austro pressure.
Perhaps if Kievians? Kievinites? Kievisarians? start spamming the thread en-mass... I will reconsider my position.
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@Hepps Ah, also, not sure if the ownerships definitions are waiting for the release, but for that portion all is good except Lviv, or rather Leopolis or Lemberg, that should be part of Austria-Hungary. Also this way the borders would look more like the historical shape, since Russian Poland was bulgy like that, and Lviv seems to clearly capture the Galician border with Russia. This would require changing the name of Galicia to something else, tho.
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Did you value Ottoman territories if yes can I see a screenshot?
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@Schulz Yes all territory valuations are complete.
However I think we shall save the remaining screen shots for the release. Between the starting financial and military distribution as well as the seasonal effects... I want you to have something to be excited about.
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But here is a screenshot from a less significant area of the globe...
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Just a little update... with all the basic stuff done this map is now moving into the final phases of development...
Get ready to get your Diplomacy on... it's gett'n hot in here!
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Teaser...
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A blessed day off... so I work on something other than work...
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@Hepps this is looking very interesting
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@ubernaut Glad to see we've got your attention.
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Even the neutral Italians are ready for the inevitable war to come...
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Austro Hungarians on the move...
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@Hepps "Northern Hungarian Plains" is very much to the east of Budapest, as is the rest of the Hungarian Plains. To the west, the Transdanubia region is mostly covered in little hills and valleys (not big enough for a territory effect). A better but still mildly strange name would be "Nortern Carpathian Basin" (?) or even just "Northern Hungary", although Budapest touching Transylvania is upsettingly weird regardless of naming. They're nearly two hundred miles apart.
But a rare and biased phenomenon called a "Hungarian eye" might percieve what makes an interesting game as disturbing... -
@alkexr I agree that the placement is a bit wonky...
When you really look at it the issue is how I had to "persuade" Budapest to being in Southern Hungary based on how the original map was created. (Bear in mind I simply altered this map to the best of my abilities without starting from scratch). I was trying to stop the Austrians from having 2 high PU value territories (with established production facilities) directly connected.
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@Hepps Budapest is closer to Vienna than Transylvania. However, Budapest should not start with a factory. The Hungarian government opposed the war and had not prepared for war. Why does this thinly populated Carpathian mountains receive the same income as industrialized Bohemia, the heart of the Austrian arms industry.
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@RogerCooper said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:
@Hepps Budapest is closer to Vienna than Transylvania. However, Budapest should not start with a factory. The Hungarian government opposed the war and had not prepared for war. Why does this thinly populated Carpathian mountains receive the same income as industrialized Bohemia, the heart of the Austrian arms industry.
Yes as stated, trying to fit Budapest into the existing map was a challenge given that I was trying not to have it adjacent to Vienna.
Bohemia should have likely been valued at 4. Will likely swap the value with Transylvania which is currently valued at 4.
I am all but certain there will be lots of changes once this is ready for play.
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I think this is the only missing one @redrum
If you add this to the TWW folder we should be all good.
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