@tinmanta Moved to this topic.

6 years later, this mod is still great and I believe deserves to be moved up at least to the "good quality" section from where it sits in experimental. I might make a house rules mod for this as practice-

One thing I notice is that Mazdak is almost always the first nation to drop in each game, at least when it is played by AI. IMO, its cultist underpinnings should be represented ingame thru a system that's in mechanically between the Chinese Underground and Grand Armee ones.
Rn, the possibility of Mazdak taking Arcadia is a pipe dream if you're not playing as them.
If I make an upgrade mod for this, I will add a "Global Mazdakism" territory, impassable like Grands. Unlike Grands, it is not their capital, and does not have any IPC value, so they can still be eliminated. However, also unlike Grands, it has a factory in it.

As Mazdak takes more territories, they gain additional locations to which they can deploy units out of their Global Mazdakism pool.
Mazdak only: Can deploy to Mazdak and Aksum

Control =>3/5 of (Aksum, Sudan, Arcadian Congo, Zimbabwe, Korean Congo): Add deploy to Hedjaz and Sudan, free units in Hedjaz and Mazdak

Control =>3/5 of (Khemet, Palestine, Hedjaz, Agrot Republic, Madagascar): Add deploy to Makan and Sumatra and adds some free units in both

Control capital Arcadia: Adds free armies and PUs and declares war against everyone (existing rule). Adds deploy to Bengal and Burma. Adds a Motor Pool building into the Global Mazdakism pool, to speed up infantry exit.

Control =>3/5 of (Bengal, Burma, Sumatra, Dravidia S.R, Arcadia): Adds a free nuke into the pool territory, for use anywhere, no tech required. Adds a few more free units.

First time you capture any nation's capital other than Arcadia's: Also adds a free nuke into the pool territory. Gives a bonus free tech token.

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Apart from Mazdak, some other nation ideas (possibly only for when controlled by AI):

India / SUFFER gets a single free volunteer added to "Volunteers 5" at their turn end for as long as they don't control all of their original territories.

GRANDS gets a single Infantry added per turn to their Grand Armee pool as long as they are on Total War (i.e losing)

China gets an extra Refinery in Yunnan, to help their Fuel budget. It's removed if the territory is lost, and not returned when regained

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@jim-parker glad i could help 🙂

@luhhlz I was able to download sucessfully, so I will eventually put on github if no one else does.

@thedog said in Error when clicking on "Download Maps" button:

@unternehmer
Im on Windows TripleA 2.5.22294, downloads work.

So its probably your PC.

I would deinstall TripleA and reinstal, hope that helps.

Thanks for information! 🙏

The Northernmost Europe is also added.

https://i.ibb.co/f8BhVvZ/National-Borders-1914.png

@kurtgodel7 said in Proposed Map: Flames and Steel:

@rogercooper said in Proposed Map: Flames and Steel:

@kurtgodel7 If you multiple HP units, where the damaged units take hits first, you basically have the effect of multiple 1 HP units with a weaker combat strength.

Correct.

Imagine a WWII nation doing a poor job of arming its soldiers. They lack heavy weapons, and can't do much against tanks. Many of them are not given any weapons at all, and are told to grab what they can from dead soldiers. They don't have much in the way of ammunition. In a real war, this would be a bad idea, unless this level of armament really was the best you could possibly do. But in a typical TripleA map, soldiers like this would be considered "conscripts." The ability to build them would be an absolute godsend for whichever nation was lucky enough to have them. They are the best of all possible best things: a cheap source of cannon fodder.

In the rules set I envision, the ability to build infantry would be limited by a nation's population size. So yeah, you're getting cannon fodder through your infantry build. But any cannon fodder you want over and above that would have to come from some other way.

Think about the difference between a tank and a piece of artillery. Both are heavy hitters, intended to do a lot of damage. But of the two, only the tank is intended to actually soak up damage. So, it's realistic to imagine a tank not just as a good source of firepower, but also as a good source of hitpoints.

There are at least two ways of handling units with multiple hitpoints. There's the way which currently exists: all units with multiple hitpoints get injured before any of them actually get killed. Then there's the way I've proposed, in which one unit with multiple hitpoints must die before the next can be injured. This latter approach is a sort of nerf to multiple hitpoint units. In particular, it prevents battles from being too one-sided in favor of the victor.

Currently, at least in most maps, all units have just one hitpoint, except for battleships and (in some cases) aircraft carriers. If however you nerf the multiple hitpoint thing, as I propose, then that opens the door to having a lot more units with multiple hitpoints. That in turn opens up a whole new area of strategic depth.

Think about the technologies you've seen in TripleA. In particular, think about those techs which improve units. Normally you'd be improving their offense, their defense, or (in some cases) their mobility. All that's well and good. But what if you could also improve their hitpoints? Imagine a conscript: a unit which attacks and defends on a 1. In the type of map we're used to, a heavy tank might attack and defend on a 5. But, it would have just 1 hitpoint. If it's 5 conscripts versus 1 heavy tank, both sides would have equal firepower, but the conscripts would be 5 times tougher to kill. But now imagine if that heavy tank could have multiple hitpoints, reflecting the fact that it has good armor. Imagine if technology could unlock additional hitpoints for it. Now, the hitpoint situation just became a lot less one-sided. Moreover, the tech system got richer, because unlocking those extra hitpoints is one more option for your research effort.

I would give the conscript unit an attack of 0. It would be useless attacking on its own. About right for the Chinese army and even some units of the Soviet army.

I would hesitate to give a heavy tank more hit points. Any tank, regardless of armor is vulnerable without supporting infantry. A heavy tank trades off mobility for protection. Just make it a 4-4-1 unit as compared to regular tank as 3-3-2.

There is a limit of how much tactical detail can be handled by TripleA.

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@falkon-powers missed this one sounds interesting

@beelee It is; I'll take a look. Thanks for the bug report.

For me its boring killing everything on the map, as it comes to a point when I know I have won, but I want the map to tell me have 🙄

Economic Victory is probably the way to go.
If there is a total of 300pu on the map then my formula is 300 x 66% = 200pu.

For the losing side only having 33% of the pu there is usually no coming back.

In xml terms you will need;

<property name="Economic Victory" value="true" editable="true"> <boolean/> </property> <property name="Democrats Economic Victory" value="200" editable="true"> <number min="150" max="300"/> </property> <property name="Republicans Economic Victory" value="200" editable="true"> <number min="150" max="300"/> </property>

@ted-self Uploaded to Github, https://github.com/triplea-maps/War_of_the_Roses_Revamp

@mattbarnes Caribbean would mean you need to take the Yucatan so you can even take 2 of the 3 Cuban Territories which allow you to try threatening the US South East. you would have to do it fast though before US builds up its navy b/c they have a huge naval advantage. Austrians can go down in Central America and usually sweep it.

South America can be done once you go to Cuba and have the US pinned down to not be able to build a navy or once you take Yucatan. You go to Panama, or the Galapagos Islands (better choice) and take them. You move in position to then try to take Lima and reinforce it. If you can fight of a Martian Counter Attack, you basically build a factory to make gas and wipe out the remaining force or brute strength your way.

Pacific can be done if you go south and Island Hop to some remaining German Islands. You have to reinforce Solomon Islands or get lucky that Samoa isn't taken. On Turn 2 your bring your force there and you can begin your Island Hopping ... remember reinforcements take 2 turns (going back to Mexico and back) and the US will not be threatened as a result. You can however with great routing, slow down Nemo Pirate Expansion or screw the British in defending south pacific. you can move to the North the threaten Japan if you want as well

@fabulous-ferret
The way it works is there’s the game engine logic (for all maps) and there’s the map files, so yes if one map has some feature, you can make any map can have that feature, by editing the map files (mainly the xml). You’d open up the two maps in a text editor and start copying stuff over.

Anyone can do it, but I don’t know how difficult the diplomacy option is to implement or how tech-y you are

@ted-self Read this https://docs.github.com/en/repositories/working-with-files/using-files/downloading-source-code-archives

@ted-self Hi, how are you? I was wondering how you made those wooly mammoths able to be captured? I am trying to do a war of the roses scenario and I have some royal units who need to be captured.

Rounds 1-24, no TT owned, no units on the map.
Then round 25, place them on the map.

To me it does not sound a good idea, as players will avoid the new nations territory, knowing they will appear. The AI will not have a clue. But ...

@wc_sumpton I'm confused about what you mean by players only being allowed "one" player attachment. You have two in your code example, yet it worked at the time.

@wc_sumpton said in Change Unit Ownership? [Resolved]:

@slendymctendies

The following seems to work:

<!-- Remove Capital Requirement --> <attachment foreach="$AllPlayers$" name="playerAttachment" attachTo="@AllPlayers@" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.PlayerAttachment" type="player"> <option name="retainCapitalNumber" value="0"/> <option name="retainCapitalProduceNumber" value="0"/> <option name="giveUnitControl" value="$AllPlayers$"/> <option name="giveUnitControlInAllTerritories" value="false"/> </attachment> <attachment foreach="$Territory$" name="triggerAttachment_Germans_SurrenderTo_Russians_@Territory@_ChangeOwnership" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player"> <option name="trigger" value="conditionAttachment_Germans_SurrenderTo_Russians"/> <option name="when" value="before:germansEndTurn"/> <option name="changeOwnership" value="@Territory@:Germans:Russians:false"/> <option name="uses" value="1"/> </attachment> <!-- change military units canBeGivenByTerritoryTo --> <attachment name="triggerAttachment_canBeGivenByTerritoryTo_GermansToRussians" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player"> <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Germans_SurrenderTo_Russians"/> <option name="unitAttachmentName" value="UnitAttachment" count="unitAttachment"/> <option name="unitType" value="$AllUnits$"/> <option name="unitProperty" value="canBeGivenByTerritoryTo" count="-reset-Russians"/> <option name="when" value="after:germansPolitics"/> <option name="uses" value="1"/> </attachment> <!-- Give unit control Germans to Russians --> <attachment name="triggerAttachment_GiveUnitControl_GermansToRussians" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player"> <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Germans_SurrenderTo_Russians"/> <option name="playerAttachmentName" value="PlayerAttachment" count="playerAttachment"/> <option name="playerProperty" value="giveUnitControl" count="-reset-Russians"/> <option name="when" value="after:germansPolitics"/> <option name="uses" value="1"/> </attachment> <!-- Give give captured units Germans to Russians --> <attachment name="triggerAttachment_GiveUnitControlInAllTerritories_GermansToRussians" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player"> <option name="trigger" value="conditionAttachment_Germans_SurrenderTo_Russians"/> <option name="when" value="after:germansPolitics"/> <option name="playerAttachmentName" value="PlayerAttachment" count="playerAttachment"/> <option name="playerProperty" value="giveUnitControlInAllTerritories" count="true"/> <option name="uses" value="1"/> </attachment>

Cheers...

So what do you mean by players only having one player attachment?