Issues Loading New Map: Avatar

Black Order

i must say 1.8 was way easier 2 build your own map
if i could "if i want 2 but i dont because the newest version :(" i would return 2 1.8
and next 2 that im also already so far

Hepps

@black-order Really has nothing to do with the version of Triple A. All of these issues are related to things in your map folder. You would have had the same issues with 1.8

redrum

@black-order You'd pretty much have all these same problems in 1.8. Can you unzip the avatar folder so the directory structure for the XML file:
C:\Users\Robin-Teus16\triplea\downloadedMaps\avatar\games\avatar.xml

Black Order

done that
think its to much 4 java
TripleA engine version 1.9.0.0.9687
Loading map: avatar, from: C:\Users\Robin-Teus16\triplea\downloadedMaps\avatar
Loading resources from the following paths: [C:\Users\Robin-Teus16\triplea\downloadedMaps\avatar, C:\Program Files\TripleA\assets]
Loading map: avatar, from: C:\Users\Robin-Teus16\triplea\downloadedMaps\avatar
Loading resources from the following paths: [C:\Users\Robin-Teus16\triplea\downloadedMaps\avatar, C:\Program Files\TripleA\assets]
Failed to start game
java.lang.NullPointerException
at games.strategy.triplea.image.MapImage.loadMaps(MapImage.java:160)
at games.strategy.triplea.ui.HeadedUiContext.internalSetMapDir(HeadedUiContext.java:96)
at games.strategy.triplea.ui.AbstractUiContext.setDefaultMapDir(AbstractUiContext.java:104)
at games.strategy.triplea.ui.TripleAFrame.<init>(TripleAFrame.java:232)
at games.strategy.triplea.TripleA.lambda$startGame$0(TripleA.java:121)
at games.strategy.ui.SwingAction.lambda$invokeAndWait$0(SwingAction.java:86)
at games.strategy.ui.SwingAction.lambda$invokeAndWaitResult$1(SwingAction.java:114)
at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)

redrum

@black-order Better. You missed replacing the "smallMap.jpeg" step I had above:

Black Order

thats true

Black Order

thanks guys the only error = capital but thats easy 2 fix thanks

redrum

@black-order Yep. Now you just need to add the other 400+ territories back in to the XML, centers, place, and polygons files

Black Order

thats good but now i know 10% sure that it will work i dont know if 7k almost 8k will work but atleast i know its hell fun 2 try out hope i don't waisted my time BTW borgia = also a project of my but 1st thise 1

redrum

@black-order Well @Hepps is making a map with a couple thousand territories. So he'll probably prove out that level of scale fairly soon.

Black Order

what map = he making "time period ect?"

redrum

@black-order https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/95/global-dominance

Its probably good to start a map thread for avatar here: https://forums.triplea-game.org/category/5/maps-mods. Where you can provide an overview and progress updates to folks.

Black Order

so a ww2/ww3 scenario ,a okay i do it at the moment on moddb.com "btw they could update the page if they wanted ;)"

Cernel

@redrum said in Issues Loading New Map: Avatar:

@black-order Yep. Now you just need to add the other 400+ territories back in to the XML, centers, place, and polygons files

Didn't download because of Microsoft Edge limits, but that looks like between 10,000 and 20,000 territories total, for the whole map.

My main suggestion is to make the territories bigger, like 4 times as big as now, really. Unless you plan having only 2 units type, those territories are way to small. In most of them you would be able to fit only one 48x48 pixels unit.

Also consider that when you have finished this map, most people may be on 4k.

alkexr

@cernel said in Issues Loading New Map: Avatar:

My main suggestion is to make the territories bigger, like 4 times as big as now, really.

Or rather, just have 10 times less territories. Seriously, even 700 is huge. Even Europa Universalis has only around 4k as of 1.25 (England). Even worse, there are only going to be 4 players, if I may guess. I'd love to see an ATLA map for TA, but I don't think it's going to be worth downloading. No, really, even the upcoming Global Dominance could very well end up being unplayably large, and this is way bigger.

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This is the last time I pester you with this. I do hope you will prove me wrong though and make a playable map out of this.

Hepps

@alkexr Hey! No reason to be dragging GD into this!

Hepps

@alkexr What I was going to say on a more serious note... is that many territories does not necessarily make for an unplayable game. Just more space to be able to consider movement options. More time and space for a slow retreat. More space to have to spread units out to conquer entire regions.

What is your primary concern? Loosing units on a vast map?

alkexr

@hepps I wanted to tell you this earlier. But then I read your signature.

alkexr

@hepps Problem is generally just every turn taking ages, while games lasting many turns; too much micromanagement and the dilution of meaningful strategic decisions in the vast sea of actions you take.