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    πŸš‚ 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Maps & Mods
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    • TheDogT Offline
      TheDog @TheDog
      last edited by

      @ubernaut
      Any thoughts or comments?

      https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
      https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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      • ubernautU Offline
        ubernaut Moderators @TheDog
        last edited by

        @thedog haven’t had a chance to look at it yet but it’s on my list πŸ™‚

        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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        • TheDogT Offline
          TheDog @ubernaut
          last edited by

          Latest version v1.020 is ready for TripleA download.

          In TripleA
          Click Download Maps Button
          Click Installed tab
          Click 1888A Steam and Steel
          Click Remove Button
          Click Yes button to remove
          Click Ok button (Successfully removed)
          Click Close (To force the map list to refresh)
          Click Download Maps Button
          Find & Click 1888A Steam and Steel
          Click Install button (be aware, displayed percentage download is not working as intended, have a coffee)
          Enjoy!

          .
          @frigoref Thanks for fixing the download file

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          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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          • TheDogT Offline
            TheDog @TheDog
            last edited by

            Someone has reported this

            Two history synchers?
            https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/13883

            This has happened to me, but only in the maps development.

            Has it happened again? If so I would upgrade to a later version.
            Like this one
            https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15287

            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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            • LaFayetteL Offline
              LaFayette Admin
              last edited by

              That 'two history syncers' error is maybe now fixed. If it's still happening in the latest (which would be 2.7.15287 as of this writing), please let me know.

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              • LaFayetteL Offline
                LaFayette Admin
                last edited by

                The map.yml file is not parsing correctly:

                https://github.com/triplea-maps/1888a_steam_and_steel/blob/main/map.yml

                map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
                games:
                - {game_name: 1888A Steam and Steel, file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml}
                

                I believe the game_name needs quotes around it, or written in multi-line format, ie:

                map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
                games:
                - { game_name: "1888A Steam and Steel", file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml }
                

                or:

                map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
                games:
                 - game_name: 1888A Steam and Steel
                   file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml
                
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                • TheDogT Offline
                  TheDog @LaFayette
                  last edited by TheDog

                  @lafayette
                  Thanks, I have updated/corrected my maps on GitHub.

                  A lot of maps, map.yml format will be like mine, single player there appears to be no problem. However will the new 2.7 lobby work correctly?

                  EDIT
                  If this is the latest documentation it will need amending to reflect your post above.
                  https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/main/docs/map-making/reference/map-yml-file.md

                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                  • LaFayetteL Offline
                    LaFayette Admin @TheDog
                    last edited by

                    If this is the latest documentation it will need amending to reflect your post above.
                    https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/main/docs/map-making/reference/map-yml-file.md

                    I see 'version' is in the docs, that should be taken out.. The rest of it at a glance looks okay. Was there something else in there that needs updating? As far as YAML goes, it's a question of the differing formats. In the shorthand format, the quotes are needed so that YAML knows where the field ends. In the long-hand format, with 'map_name' on its own line, YAML infers the data type based on the first character of the value. So, it can tell the value is text, and YAML treats the rest of the line as text.

                    A lot of maps, map.yml format will be like mine, single player there appears to be no problem. However will the new 2.7 lobby work correctly?

                    There are going to be two servers! The lobby server and "support server". It was planned to have 3, {lobby, support, maps}, but maps & support were combined.

                    Immediately, the support server won't be able to index maps that have a bad map.yaml file. Those maps won't be listed as available for download. Locally, eventually the map will be invisible to the game itself. I think there is some flagging put into the code right now to use the old map loading system. In short, it will become a problem soon.

                    After the 2.7 launch, I have high on my list to try and provide a map indexing status page of some sort. I recognize that process is pretty opaque right now.

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                    • RogerCooperR Online
                      RogerCooper @LaFayette
                      last edited by

                      In play, the everyone gangs up on the leader on occurs at 13 victory cities, which is way too late in a game with 24 victory cities. This should occur when a single player reaches 9 victory cities.

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                      • TheDogT Offline
                        TheDog @RogerCooper
                        last edited by

                        @rogercooper
                        Thanks I will look into it.

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                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                        • TheDogT Offline
                          TheDog @RogerCooper
                          last edited by

                          @rogercooper said in Roger's Scenario Thread:

                          Name 1888A Steam and Steel
                          Description The world in 1888 with a randomized setup

                          Good Points

                          • Randomized setup for varied games
                          • Interesting diplomatic rules
                          • Features to help the AI

                          Bad Points

                          • Random setup can be confusing
                          • The AI feels rudderless
                          • Frequent error messages

                          How could I improve on the Bad Points, especially error messages, as when I test/play it I get so few error messages.

                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                          • RogerCooperR Online
                            RogerCooper @TheDog
                            last edited by

                            @thedog said in πŸš‚ 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread:

                            How could I improve on the Bad Points, especially error messages, as when I test/play it I get so few error messages.

                            I am not sure why I get many error messages and you don't. Am I using an old version of the mod? There is no mod version number.

                            To get the AI to be more aggressive, put capitals in important territories. Even if there is no effect on play, the AI will try hard to take them.

                            To reduce confusion, create a scenario with a fixed, semi-historical setup.

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                            • TheDogT Offline
                              TheDog @RogerCooper
                              last edited by

                              @rogercooper

                              The version number is here, just before you load the map.
                              24e8acd8-3113-452c-b86e-5d49e693c29f-image.png

                              To get the AI to be more aggressive, put capitals in important territories. Even if there is no effect on play, the AI will try hard to take them.
                              Agreed, it already has 26 capitals over the map, maybe it needs more.

                              To reduce confusion, create a scenario with a fixed, semi-historical setup.
                              Sort of done this, in this xml, here;
                              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3613/age-of-tribes-world-map-new-official-thread/60?page=3

                              https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                              • RogerCooperR Online
                                RogerCooper @TheDog
                                last edited by

                                @thedog The version number should on page 1, not page 2.

                                The version on GitHub is 015, not 020.

                                I would suggest adding a scenario to the mod which doesn't use random allocation of territories, but has historical countries. It would be easier to follow.

                                I also suggest gang up on the leader occuring at 9 VC (out of 24). If a single power already control's more than half the VC's, it is already over.

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                                • TheDogT Offline
                                  TheDog @RogerCooper
                                  last edited by TheDog

                                  @rogercooper said in πŸš‚ 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread:

                                  @thedog The version number should on page 1, not page 2.

                                  "Page 1, not Page 2", I dont follow?

                                  .

                                  The version on GitHub is 015, not 020.

                                  Check again as I have just downloaded it, it is version 1.020
                                  I think the % download is broke, so be aware, this might be the reason for your errors.

                                  .

                                  I would suggest adding a scenario to the mod which doesn't use random allocation of territories, but has historical countries. It would be easier to follow.

                                  Maybe, I will chat to Ebbe, to get his opinion.

                                  .

                                  I also suggest gang up on the leader occurring at 9 VC (out of 24). If a single power already control's more than half the VC's, it is already over.

                                  I will lower than the current value, I will do some testing

                                  Thanks for the feedback, its much appreciated.

                                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                  • RogerCooperR Online
                                    RogerCooper @TheDog
                                    last edited by

                                    @thedog I have version 020 now.

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                                    • TheDogT Offline
                                      TheDog @RogerCooper
                                      last edited by

                                      Currently the latest pre-release onwards causes errors like
                                      2.7.15230: ResourceCollection#removeResource:54
                                      The devs are working their way through solving some of the outstanding issues.

                                      .
                                      I suggest players use this version
                                      https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15025
                                      As center on Capital works

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                                      https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                      • TheDogT Offline
                                        TheDog @TheDog
                                        last edited by

                                        Someone has posted an error on GitHub
                                        2.7.15025: TripleAFrame#showHistory:1784 - java.lang.IllegalStateException #14112

                                        game stops at the beginning - playing royals. Two history thinkers ...

                                        Try another version like this one
                                        https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15256

                                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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