🚂 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread

jkprince

the randomization in this map is neat but I also made a save with edit mode as an alternate consistent setup

TheDog

Latest version v010 ready for download.

Updated manual
New Unit Bridge that can be placed in Rivers and Channels, it is a non moving 'transport'
New canal Hellespont & Anatolia
Post 2 on 1st page for Code Raiders has a summary of how Winter works
Winter is coming, well on turns 4, 8,12, etc (with a Winter symbol . With a popup to warn & remind you of its effects for 1 turn

Winter in a territory and Sea Zone (Arctic, North and Antarctic)

Winter Terrain Effect for this turn

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Your comments are most welcome.
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Link to 1st post that has;
Google Drive download link
Latest 1888a SAS manual
Latest TripleA version

https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/4056/1888a-steam-steel-official-thread

TheDog

Latest version v015 ready for download.

WARNING: This version is NOT compatible with your old saved games, so finish them before upgrading.

Each Faction has been Themed, with a free starting Tech, free units and a Theme benefit, hopefully this is balanced? (see table below)
New Units are Triplane, Inf-Biped, Armored-Train, Artillery-Rocket, Fort & Carrier, Tech2PUx2
Kraken & Sandworm Beasts randomly appear and wreck havoc with your plans (They can be turned off in Game Options)
Winter can be turned off in Game Options
Vanquished nations are now shown on the Politics Panel
Updated manual

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Your comments are most welcome.

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Link to 1st post that has;
Google Drive download link
Latest 1888a SAS manual
Latest stable TripleA version

https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/4056/1888a-steam-steel-official-thread

ubernaut

@thedog def gotta give this a try

TheDog

Thanks, any feedback would be appreciated!

TheDog

@ubernaut
Any thoughts or comments?

ubernaut

@thedog haven’t had a chance to look at it yet but it’s on my list

TheDog

Latest version v1.020 is ready for TripleA download.

In TripleA
Click Download Maps Button
Click Installed tab
Click 1888A Steam and Steel
Click Remove Button
Click Yes button to remove
Click Ok button (Successfully removed)
Click Close (To force the map list to refresh)
Click Download Maps Button
Find & Click 1888A Steam and Steel
Click Install button (be aware, displayed percentage download is not working as intended, have a coffee)
Enjoy!

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@frigoref Thanks for fixing the download file

TheDog

Someone has reported this

Two history synchers?
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/13883

This has happened to me, but only in the maps development.

Has it happened again? If so I would upgrade to a later version.
Like this one
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15287

LaFayette

That 'two history syncers' error is maybe now fixed. If it's still happening in the latest (which would be 2.7.15287 as of this writing), please let me know.

LaFayette

The map.yml file is not parsing correctly:

https://github.com/triplea-maps/1888a_steam_and_steel/blob/main/map.yml

map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
games:
- {game_name: 1888A Steam and Steel, file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml}

I believe the game_name needs quotes around it, or written in multi-line format, ie:

map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
games:
- { game_name: "1888A Steam and Steel", file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml }

or:

map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
games:
 - game_name: 1888A Steam and Steel
   file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml

TheDog

@lafayette
Thanks, I have updated/corrected my maps on GitHub.

A lot of maps, map.yml format will be like mine, single player there appears to be no problem. However will the new 2.7 lobby work correctly?

EDIT
If this is the latest documentation it will need amending to reflect your post above.
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/main/docs/map-making/reference/map-yml-file.md

LaFayette

If this is the latest documentation it will need amending to reflect your post above.
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/main/docs/map-making/reference/map-yml-file.md

I see 'version' is in the docs, that should be taken out.. The rest of it at a glance looks okay. Was there something else in there that needs updating? As far as YAML goes, it's a question of the differing formats. In the shorthand format, the quotes are needed so that YAML knows where the field ends. In the long-hand format, with 'map_name' on its own line, YAML infers the data type based on the first character of the value. So, it can tell the value is text, and YAML treats the rest of the line as text.

A lot of maps, map.yml format will be like mine, single player there appears to be no problem. However will the new 2.7 lobby work correctly?

There are going to be two servers! The lobby server and "support server". It was planned to have 3, {lobby, support, maps}, but maps & support were combined.

Immediately, the support server won't be able to index maps that have a bad map.yaml file. Those maps won't be listed as available for download. Locally, eventually the map will be invisible to the game itself. I think there is some flagging put into the code right now to use the old map loading system. In short, it will become a problem soon.

After the 2.7 launch, I have high on my list to try and provide a map indexing status page of some sort. I recognize that process is pretty opaque right now.

RogerCooper

In play, the everyone gangs up on the leader on occurs at 13 victory cities, which is way too late in a game with 24 victory cities. This should occur when a single player reaches 9 victory cities.

TheDog

@rogercooper
Thanks I will look into it.

TheDog

@rogercooper said in Roger's Scenario Thread:

Name 1888A Steam and Steel
Description The world in 1888 with a randomized setup

Good Points

Randomized setup for varied games

Interesting diplomatic rules

Features to help the AI

Bad Points

Random setup can be confusing

The AI feels rudderless

Frequent error messages

How could I improve on the Bad Points, especially error messages, as when I test/play it I get so few error messages.

RogerCooper

@thedog said in 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread:

How could I improve on the Bad Points, especially error messages, as when I test/play it I get so few error messages.

I am not sure why I get many error messages and you don't. Am I using an old version of the mod? There is no mod version number.

To get the AI to be more aggressive, put capitals in important territories. Even if there is no effect on play, the AI will try hard to take them.

To reduce confusion, create a scenario with a fixed, semi-historical setup.

TheDog

@rogercooper

The version number is here, just before you load the map.

To get the AI to be more aggressive, put capitals in important territories. Even if there is no effect on play, the AI will try hard to take them.
Agreed, it already has 26 capitals over the map, maybe it needs more.

To reduce confusion, create a scenario with a fixed, semi-historical setup.
Sort of done this, in this xml, here;
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3613/age-of-tribes-world-map-new-official-thread/60?page=3

RogerCooper

@thedog The version number should on page 1, not page 2.

The version on GitHub is 015, not 020.

I would suggest adding a scenario to the mod which doesn't use random allocation of territories, but has historical countries. It would be easier to follow.

I also suggest gang up on the leader occuring at 9 VC (out of 24). If a single power already control's more than half the VC's, it is already over.

TheDog

@rogercooper said in 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread:

@thedog The version number should on page 1, not page 2.

"Page 1, not Page 2", I dont follow?

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The version on GitHub is 015, not 020.

Check again as I have just downloaded it, it is version 1.020
I think the % download is broke, so be aware, this might be the reason for your errors.

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I would suggest adding a scenario to the mod which doesn't use random allocation of territories, but has historical countries. It would be easier to follow.

Maybe, I will chat to Ebbe, to get his opinion.

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I also suggest gang up on the leader occurring at 9 VC (out of 24). If a single power already control's more than half the VC's, it is already over.

I will lower than the current value, I will do some testing

Thanks for the feedback, its much appreciated.