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    πŸš‚ 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread

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    • wc_sumptonW Offline
      wc_sumpton @ebbe
      last edited by

      @ebbe said in πŸš‚ 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread:

      we're working on a bridge concept...

      Just wondering what you mean...

      Cheers...

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      • ebbeE Offline
        ebbe @wc_sumpton
        last edited by ebbe

        @wc_sumpton

        Bridge.png

        we are looking for a way that a kind of bridge can be introduced,
        to cross big rivers...
        but it likely will not be possible to make it with all realistic bridge features
        ( so within the possibilites of Triple A code making some choices)
        Like: can a bridge be conquered by land units from land? unlikely
        can it be entered only when water TT it is in , is controlled ?
        could it be damaged and repaired?
        should a bridge be allways friendly neutral and by this accessable
        by all sides all the time?
        And with limited capacity a crossing point with slight bottleneck ?
        just some thoughts....to test

        I realy would like a Bridge type close to reality also for other projects...
        it would be an interesting unit to add to strategic games

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        • TheDogT Offline
          TheDog @ebbe
          last edited by TheDog

          @wc_sumpton
          Currently in test is a
          Bridge it is 0-0-0 (its really 0-0-1) with AA defence and 14TC, the AI does buy them.
          So its 2 barges in 1 bridge that doesnt move, but its still a sea unit.
          Like the current Coastal-Fort.

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          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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          • jkprinceJ Offline
            jkprince
            last edited by

            SaS_fullsetup_semirealisticish.tsvg

            the randomization in this map is neat but I also made a save with edit mode as an alternate consistent setup

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            • TheDogT Offline
              TheDog @jkprince
              last edited by TheDog

              Latest version v010 ready for download.

              • Updated manual
              • New Unit Bridge that can be placed in Rivers and Channels, it is a non moving 'transport'
              • New canal Hellespont & Anatolia
              • Post 2 on 1st page for Code Raiders has a summary of how Winter works
              • Winter is coming, well on turns 4, 8,12, etc (with a Winter symbol . With a popup to warn & remind you of its effects for 1 turn

              Winter in a territory and Sea Zone (Arctic, North and Antarctic)
              WinterLand.png

              Winter Terrain Effect for this turn
              Winter.png

              .
              Your comments are most welcome.
              .
              Link to 1st post that has;
              Google Drive download link
              Latest 1888a SAS manual
              Latest TripleA version

              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/4056/1888a-steam-steel-official-thread

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              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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              • TheDogT Offline
                TheDog @TheDog
                last edited by TheDog

                Latest version v015 ready for download.

                WARNING: This version is NOT compatible with your old saved games, so finish them before upgrading.

                • Each Faction has been Themed, with a free starting Tech, free units and a Theme benefit, hopefully this is balanced? (see table below)
                • New Units are Triplane, Inf-Biped, Armored-Train, Artillery-Rocket, Fort & Carrier, Tech2PUx2
                • Kraken & Sandworm Beasts randomly appear and wreck havoc with your plans (They can be turned off in Game Options)
                • Winter can be turned off in Game Options
                • Vanquished nations are now shown on the Politics Panel
                • Updated manual

                .
                3d76c984-0d32-4fbf-9e21-0cc2d102c5fd-image.png

                .
                Your comments are most welcome.

                .
                Link to 1st post that has;
                Google Drive download link
                Latest 1888a SAS manual
                Latest stable TripleA version

                https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/4056/1888a-steam-steel-official-thread

                https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                • ubernautU Offline
                  ubernaut Moderators @TheDog
                  last edited by

                  @thedog def gotta give this a try

                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  • TheDogT Offline
                    TheDog @ubernaut
                    last edited by

                    Thanks, any feedback would be appreciated!

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                    • TheDogT Offline
                      TheDog @TheDog
                      last edited by

                      @ubernaut
                      Any thoughts or comments?

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                      • ubernautU Offline
                        ubernaut Moderators @TheDog
                        last edited by

                        @thedog haven’t had a chance to look at it yet but it’s on my list πŸ™‚

                        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                        • TheDogT Offline
                          TheDog @ubernaut
                          last edited by

                          Latest version v1.020 is ready for TripleA download.

                          In TripleA
                          Click Download Maps Button
                          Click Installed tab
                          Click 1888A Steam and Steel
                          Click Remove Button
                          Click Yes button to remove
                          Click Ok button (Successfully removed)
                          Click Close (To force the map list to refresh)
                          Click Download Maps Button
                          Find & Click 1888A Steam and Steel
                          Click Install button (be aware, displayed percentage download is not working as intended, have a coffee)
                          Enjoy!

                          .
                          @frigoref Thanks for fixing the download file

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                          • TheDogT Offline
                            TheDog @TheDog
                            last edited by

                            Someone has reported this

                            Two history synchers?
                            https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/13883

                            This has happened to me, but only in the maps development.

                            Has it happened again? If so I would upgrade to a later version.
                            Like this one
                            https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15287

                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                            • LaFayetteL Offline
                              LaFayette Admin
                              last edited by

                              That 'two history syncers' error is maybe now fixed. If it's still happening in the latest (which would be 2.7.15287 as of this writing), please let me know.

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                              • LaFayetteL Offline
                                LaFayette Admin
                                last edited by

                                The map.yml file is not parsing correctly:

                                https://github.com/triplea-maps/1888a_steam_and_steel/blob/main/map.yml

                                map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
                                games:
                                - {game_name: 1888A Steam and Steel, file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml}
                                

                                I believe the game_name needs quotes around it, or written in multi-line format, ie:

                                map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
                                games:
                                - { game_name: "1888A Steam and Steel", file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml }
                                

                                or:

                                map_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel
                                games:
                                 - game_name: 1888A Steam and Steel
                                   file_name: 1888a_steam_and_steel.xml
                                
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                                • TheDogT Offline
                                  TheDog @LaFayette
                                  last edited by TheDog

                                  @lafayette
                                  Thanks, I have updated/corrected my maps on GitHub.

                                  A lot of maps, map.yml format will be like mine, single player there appears to be no problem. However will the new 2.7 lobby work correctly?

                                  EDIT
                                  If this is the latest documentation it will need amending to reflect your post above.
                                  https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/main/docs/map-making/reference/map-yml-file.md

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                                  • LaFayetteL Offline
                                    LaFayette Admin @TheDog
                                    last edited by

                                    If this is the latest documentation it will need amending to reflect your post above.
                                    https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/main/docs/map-making/reference/map-yml-file.md

                                    I see 'version' is in the docs, that should be taken out.. The rest of it at a glance looks okay. Was there something else in there that needs updating? As far as YAML goes, it's a question of the differing formats. In the shorthand format, the quotes are needed so that YAML knows where the field ends. In the long-hand format, with 'map_name' on its own line, YAML infers the data type based on the first character of the value. So, it can tell the value is text, and YAML treats the rest of the line as text.

                                    A lot of maps, map.yml format will be like mine, single player there appears to be no problem. However will the new 2.7 lobby work correctly?

                                    There are going to be two servers! The lobby server and "support server". It was planned to have 3, {lobby, support, maps}, but maps & support were combined.

                                    Immediately, the support server won't be able to index maps that have a bad map.yaml file. Those maps won't be listed as available for download. Locally, eventually the map will be invisible to the game itself. I think there is some flagging put into the code right now to use the old map loading system. In short, it will become a problem soon.

                                    After the 2.7 launch, I have high on my list to try and provide a map indexing status page of some sort. I recognize that process is pretty opaque right now.

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                                    • RogerCooperR Offline
                                      RogerCooper @LaFayette
                                      last edited by

                                      In play, the everyone gangs up on the leader on occurs at 13 victory cities, which is way too late in a game with 24 victory cities. This should occur when a single player reaches 9 victory cities.

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                                      • TheDogT Offline
                                        TheDog @RogerCooper
                                        last edited by

                                        @rogercooper
                                        Thanks I will look into it.

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                                        • TheDogT Offline
                                          TheDog @RogerCooper
                                          last edited by

                                          @rogercooper said in Roger's Scenario Thread:

                                          Name 1888A Steam and Steel
                                          Description The world in 1888 with a randomized setup

                                          Good Points

                                          • Randomized setup for varied games
                                          • Interesting diplomatic rules
                                          • Features to help the AI

                                          Bad Points

                                          • Random setup can be confusing
                                          • The AI feels rudderless
                                          • Frequent error messages

                                          How could I improve on the Bad Points, especially error messages, as when I test/play it I get so few error messages.

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                                          • RogerCooperR Offline
                                            RogerCooper @TheDog
                                            last edited by

                                            @thedog said in πŸš‚ 1888A Steam & Steel - Official Thread:

                                            How could I improve on the Bad Points, especially error messages, as when I test/play it I get so few error messages.

                                            I am not sure why I get many error messages and you don't. Am I using an old version of the mod? There is no mod version number.

                                            To get the AI to be more aggressive, put capitals in important territories. Even if there is no effect on play, the AI will try hard to take them.

                                            To reduce confusion, create a scenario with a fixed, semi-historical setup.

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