@sculpt @Cernel
Does the same thing happen in the latest 2.6 ?
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases

@kindwind

I don’t have access to a PC at the moment so cannot check that out.
However I was looking up previous posts on the topic as I knew there are plenty.

new-dice-server

In this topic there’s a screenshot of some dice-stats. The funny thing I noticed is that the given median is different, either 3 or 4, for different players. It should be exactly 3,5 for all players I think.

So while I’m confident the actual given dice in the game are fair perhaps the calculated dice statistics are off.

@Kindwind perhaps you can check if you see a relation between given median and the deviation in your stats and if perhaps the given median is side dependent (for example: first alliance gets median 3, second gets 4).

@david09 Thanks glad you enjoyed it!

Every time I try it I am always amazed at the fact that even though the elves can't make new units, they hang around so long in the north east.

Those troops in Lorien and Mirkwood are tough to handle.

Plus I feel like Goblins should steamroll the Freefolk, and they kind of do but it takes a bit of time to recover from taking Rivendell.

@ice1

For the sake of argument, where in the written rules is the "save" function listed as a game feature? Since it is not discussed in the rules, if you have to save the game, do you lose and is that an "illegal game function?"

By your logic, use of game tools to accomplish legitimate purposes is not allowed. If you think using edit feature to move units you forgot during your turn is illegal, I am sorry, but that is not reasonable in my opinion.

@mattbarnes
as a strategy against the AI, I have found taking Tharbad with the Orcs works really well.

Here is a bunch of old tips that someone posted a while back:

Transports are “old school” defend at a 1 and take hits in combat.

You purchase armored cars and artillery two at a time, effectively making them 3.5 ICs each. Remember to factor that in on your unit count for deployment.

In SZs connected to another SZ via multiple canals, you (and your Allies) must own just 1 of them to pass through.

You don’t have “back-up” capitals, you have multiple capitals. If you lose ANY of them, it counts as losing your capital.
a. Example: in one game, Russia lost Kaask, the Soviet far east capital with a production value of 6. Hisachi took it, and Russia lost all his money, even though he still had Moscow and that one in the middle no one really uses. Lol.
b. On your next round, you’ll collect income if you still have at least one capital left.

Most powers have “Late War” units that don’t become available for purchase until the beginning of your Round 4.

Bunkers are an immovable, 2-hit unit that repairs at the beginning of your turn, defends at 3, and can be built in any territory, regardless of factory. Only available for purchase as a Late War unit, costs 6 ICs. Limit one per territory per turn.

Patrol boats, cruisers, and super subs can carry units!
a. I didn’t say just infantry, because they can carry armored cars as well! An armored car weighs as much as an infantry (2 carrying capacity).

A battle transport can carry two tanks (3 cap) and one infantry (2 cap), or FOUR infantry/armored cars.

Subs and transports can block naval movement.

Planes can hit subs!
a. But if no destroyer is present on the attacking side, they can submerge AFTER the first round of combat. Free, one-round of aircraft shots against lone subs.

AA guns have no combat value, and get a shot at EVERY plane. (Classic rules). Capturable. Moveable during NCM if you controlled it at the start of your turn.

Deployment is restricted to the production value of the territory.

You can build a new factory in any territory you control at the beginning of your turn with a value of 1 or higher.

SPECIFIC UNITS that you have to learn through play:
a. Long range bombers: US/JAPAN/UK. They not only move 8 and attack @ 5 and can bomb, they give artillery support to supportable units if used in combat! Cost 18.
b. Battle Carriers: US/JAPAN. They are two hit repairable units.
c. Mechanized Infantry give artillery support, as do Stukas (German only plane).
d. Katyushan Russian rocket trucks are mechanized inf that attack for 3 defend 1 instead of 2/2. Also move 3 and support.
e. Many Pacific powers have marines, which are an attack 3 infantry. Options include inf, atk 1, elite, atk 2, marines atk 3.
f. torpedo boats are a 2/1/1 naval unit. They can transport 1 inf. Good for immobile land bridges. Slow movement makes them difficult to use, but they’re cheap like a transport (6 ic).

ironglaive, cernel was able to get a save of the game using save from history that seems to be correct. so you don't need to make an edit-fixed copy.

@hungry-coyote well this might help you find someone at your skill level, but also you can ask the lobby directly and if anyone answers you, you can take it from there.

@ubernaut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzFpiW5vHrc talkin ted nugent "stranglehold".

Yeah I could see that, since taking on AI teammates is also a way to handicap yourself. I think much depends on the scale of the map, like how many factions are involved, and also how long it takes the AI to complete a normal gameround, when you're only playing as a single faction among many. For example, in Iron War if you just play as Germany or Japan there can be a lot of down time between turns, compared to something like v5 where you'll be back up again pretty quickly.

It's also kind of curious for me to ponder what makes for a good/enjoyable experience playing against the HardAI in general, since it's never going to match PvP in terms of the challenge, even if you really juice the income bonuses. I think a big part of the appeal comes simply from that desire to paint the map you're own colors in new ways, or just to see a deep endgame situation that might be unlikely in PvP, where a human opponent would have already thrown in the towel a while ago lol.

Thinking about this stuff, I'm also reminded of other games that were primarily aimed at solo play vs the computer, and how they maintained engagement. Like say MTW 1, where you'd have stuff like Glorious Achievements (i.e. special victory conditions, where the player has to achieve specific goals within a certain timeframe for a given faction) or other randomizing events like rebellions or civils wars and such to mix things up on campaign. A&A style gameplay is of course a bit different than Total War, since the mechanics here are a lot more transparent. There's just not as much happening under the under the hood, to obfuscate what's going on with all that stuff. In a game like v5, giving the computer opponent starting tech advances can also work. You know like Japan starting with Super subs or shipyards or whatever, which is sorta Iron Blitz style I guess. Still I think stuff like special Victory Conditions, might worth exploring. In my view its better if the game/designer lays out some difficulty parameters or guidelines in the launch settings, since leaving it up to the player to invent a challenge for themselves ad hoc, is rather less satisfying somehow.

@lafayette You don't need any installation. You just sign into the website and make a server and send invites. Now I would say check for tutorials in setting up a server as in making channels and moderation and bots as IDK anything about that

Reminds me of several postings here on this forum from ignorant users not caring about the fact what our TripleA actually is. 😄

@radrod2006

Answering my own question: Luckily I was able to open several different saved games. Selecting a previous save managed to get me out of the error. i can now reselect other maps.

@ezeeric1 It is played a bit over on the A&A forums: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/category/33/team-games

Deleting the essay I just wrote and instead giving these bullet points:

the game player is not an input to the dice rolling function game players and dice rolls are not linked together the engine does not even know if a game player is human or AI controlled.

Hopefully this puts the question of whether AI are given an advantage to bed.

It's just unlucky dice and confirmation bias at play. Humans are pattern recognition machines on steriods, we see patterns all over the place, often
where none exists (animals out of clouds, a face on the moon, a tiger in the bushes).

Re: resistance - The resistance is perhaps misperceived. It would be one thing if someone said:

"I have generated 100 sets of 1000 numbers using TripleA and have found that 82% of those
sets fail the diehard tests". You can read
more about randommness tests here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diehard_tests

Instead this conversation is often couched as "AI is given an advantage", or "one player is given
an advantage over another". That is impossible to distinguish from mere confirmation bias, no
matter how unlucky or seemingly impossible the circumstance described. I am not saying there are
zero problems, but so far nobody has used the above mentioned statistical measures to objectively
show there is a problem.

Meanwhile, The development backlog in TripleA, for one person, goes out years if not decades.
We need low effort and high value activities. Anything that is high effort is unlikely to be done
at all. If the effort were reduced here, there would be a higher likelyhood it'll be done.

In this case, we have a dice system with no known, proven problems. I'm not saying there are none, just nobody
has used a statistical technique (see the wiki article above about randomness tests) to objectively show
there is a problem. Beyond this, nobody has proposed any kind of alternative. We can whimsically choose
a new algorithm, but the value derived from this is low. To show this is a high value activity, we first need
to show the existing pseudo-random number generator is defective. Then to actually fix the problem, we'd
need to find another pseudo-random number generator and show by the same measure it is less defective.

Hence the "resistance". Development is being asked to spend a medium to high amount of effort for almost no
value. It's not really "resistance" actually, it's just this task, as framed, does not have a compelling
rate-of-return on the investment.

With that said, I would love to see a
compelling analysis showing 'mersenne twister' as used in TripleA is broken according to objective statistical
randonmess tests, and then I would further love to see a similar analysis showing an alternative algorithm is
better (and not ony that, but the algorithm is provided by an existing java library so we don't have to code it!)

This topic is important though and gets such a lengthy response for two reasons:

dice rolls are pervasive. If were a problem, fixing such a problem would suddenly be a very high value activity. The Marti dice roller, as exists, is currently costing the project $10/month. We are likey to rewrite this
for that reason and others, and for it to be written in Java. At that rate we would pretty guaranteed use the
same algorithm for all dice rolls. We could whimsically replace the randonmness generator with something else.
We could invest a day or three or more of research into a new randonmness generator, though the path of least
resistance would have us skip that unless we can objectively show a benefit for that investment.

@lafayette I kind of like the Fast AI when I want things to go faster.

@alkexr @TheDog
Thank you both for taking time to go into it.
This was very helpful. I really appreciate this alot.

@torpedoa if there are no blitz units, I would retreat. However, maybe he wants his stack to go elsewhere in a close battle ?

He'd have to ignore or send 3 dudes to be sure, usually, to kill the blocker. Can the blocker counterattack if ignored ?

Maybe you have reinforcements coming to that TTy and you can just ignore the blocker.

Without knowing the game, retreat most likely, be my guess