@battleshipyamato said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

@panther

I redownloaded France Goes First and the plain Global 1940 UDH Map and it works again on 2.5.

@battleshipyamato

Sure, you can of course try and use this "erroneous workaround" - but this "solution" is part of the problem - as discussed in this topic.

A TripleA-map (or module) should never depend on having preinstalled another one. In this case this has been caused by oversights and errors in different files.
"France goes First" needs some rework before it should be downloadable from within TripleA.

@Panzerstahl-Helm-0

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 factory_major; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 2 JPNbombers moved from Japan to Yunnan 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan Combat - Japanese Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 JPNbombers, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 JPNbombers, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese roll dice for 2 JPNbombers, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 3.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 JPNbombers, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Hunan, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 3.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 J_Rails owned by Japanese in Kwangsi 2 JPNbombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi 1 fighter moved from Korea to Japan 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Kwangsi 2 infantry moved from Formosa to 20 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 2 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 battleship, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 2 J_Rails moved from Kiangsu to Korea 1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Korea to Kwangsi 1 J_Rail moved from Korea to Jehol 1 J_Rail moved from Jehol to Manchuria 1 J_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Manchuria to Kwangsi 1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 3 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 factory_major placed in Korea Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 30 PUs; end with 31 PUs Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 PUs; end with 39 PUs Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -1.67

EXP Game 10 Strawberry J 1.tsvg

@rogercooper said in Change maxBuiltPerPlayer by a trigger:

@victoryfirst Could this be used to change any value on an unit attachment? Potentially very useful.

For example, in Axis & Allies: Pacific, Commonwealth and American units have a defense strength of one on the first turn. They could start 1 and then be upgraded to their regular values at the end of the Japanese turn.

Yes, definitely yes. Just tried this in my improved module for Axis and Allies D-Day.

The module was already finished for some time but I thought it would be a good idea to add some various game options to help balance the game. The_Good_Captain made a series on A&A D-Day where he recommended some balancing changes. There was one he didn't mention in his video but did consider and that was: "Allied Bombers attack at 4 instead of 3". The game is too pro-German and having this as an optional rule helps out the Allies.

<attachment name="BombersAttackAt4" attachTo="USA-UK" javaClass="RulesAttachment" type="player"> <option name="gameProperty" value="Allied Bombers Attack At 4"/> </attachment> <attachment name="triggerAttachmentBombersAttackAt4" attachTo="USA-UK" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player"> <option name="conditions" value="BombersAttackAt4"/> <option name="unitType" value="UKbomber:USAbomber"/> <option name="unitAttachmentName" value="UnitAttachment" count="unitAttachment"/> <option name="unitProperty" value="attack" count="4"/> <option name="uses" value="1"/> <option name="when" value="before:ParaSurpriseBattle"/> </attachment>

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There you have it! Very useful indeed.

@VictoryFirst

I did some research on this, see here
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2892/how-i-am-using-movementcostmodifier

Naive question, there appears all the elements for removing the Pxx zones?

All aircraft could have a move of 10 and share the pathing/connection of Shorebombardment or

All aircraft could have a move of 1 and share the pathing/connection of Shorebombardment if aircraft and Shorebombardment started from a zone that had connections to all land zones?

@gregorek

Do rule changes disturb order in the purchase menu? (ie. remove then add to end, which changes location.) -

Yes, remove a purchase shuffles the purchases after the remove and an adds to the end.

You would have to rewrite the whole of the production list every time you did an upgrade to keep the locations constant.

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Currently there is no function to test a resource.

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Personally I would remove the TIMER and see if the game plays well enough without it.

Good, Bad, Ugly?

I would let the players decide. I will be one of them 😁

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As @wc_sumpton suggested create a Jurassic - Official Thread under 'Maps & Mods, ask your questions under it and show case your progress. Keep the first post to advertise the mod.

@rogercooper Nice, thanks.

@gregorek whatever amount there is it is not noticeable versus the other background activities

your concern and input are appreciated and i am by no means the real expert here but i believe these issues should not be worrying you 🙂

Separate activateTrigger's solved it. Set up an always false condition, so the property modifiers dont launch independently. Issue closed.
FYI, Made new units and recolored with drop shadows. Testing game play and balance. Hope to post a beta for others to kick around in a couple weeks.
Thanks for all the help.

@GREGOREK

In my copy of Jurassic, I noticed that there are no technologies. By adding an empty technology section:

<technology> </technology>

The Technologies Tab/Window can be removed.

Cheers...

@futsal Given the complexity of the game, the AI is actually reasonable. It is generally better than in other wargames. The TripleA is superior to the AI for Axis & Allies Online, which only plays one version of the game.

The type of AI algorithm used in Chess (Alpha-Beta) would not work in TripleA because of the vast number of legal moves and the random elements. There are some people working on using neural net AI's like Alpha Zero but I have not seen any results yet. I have doubts about their effectiveness.

I do expect future improvements in the AI, but they are likely to be piecemeal resolutions of specific issues .

To have fun with the AI, I suggest playing only one country, so you need to deal with AI allies. Giving handicaps to your opponents can be useful as well.

@wc_sumpton said in Restricting unit builds:

<property name="Unit Placement Restrictions" value="true" editable="false">
<boolean/>
</property>

That was it. Thank you for the help.

@thulsadoom42

Welcome to the site !

Idk how things work specifically all that well, I just bang away until it works. Probably not the best approach 🙂

You can have windows and Linux both installed on. I can't remember. I think I had to do some sort of virtual thing. Anyway, I hate windows so I rarely use it. Probably because I don't know how lol

At any rate, it looks like it's the triplea install giving you trouble. As Panther says, triplea should auto add java for you, so should be good there.

When I DL triplea I don't use the installer command. I just go to permissions and hit execute.

I'll DL a prerelease I've been meaning to do and show you how I do it.

I'm gonna DL 15025 as recommended by The Dog. It's the last one that centers on your Capital. You can force individual maps to do it by tweaking the xml but that's a fair amount of work and frankly shouldn't be necessary.

Anyway, it's a nice feature that you take for granted until it's gone. Then it becomes annoying. It's a simple fix but w/e not my department 🙂

Gonna go here for the prerelease

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15025

you want the unix one as you already know 🙂

Hmm won't let me post the pic. Try a smaller version.

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So I have 2 Triplea/triplea folders. One with a Big T, which is where the releases live and one with a small t where the games/maps and saves live.

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Here's the Big T

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You can see I have 14962 and then another release in a separate folder 15330

I go to downloads and right click on 15025

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Go to properties and hit Permissions and then execute

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Then open a terminal and drag 15025 into it

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hit enter

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and then follow the prompts. I usually put it in a different folder 15025 will call it. Have to be careful or you have to type the whole thing in.

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Then just keep hitting next

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then Finish and it should fire up

You can see the Java version and the triplea version upper left.

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Oh yea, I guess I shoulda said this first. I can't get the 2.5 stable to work on linux anymore. Probably a couple years now. I've mentioned it to dan a few times but nothing ever came of it.

This is what happens when I try it

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So you can play local or by Forum/email but can't use the lobby. I haven't checked the 2.7 lobby in a while but I think it's still being worked on.

So you will need to use windows to access the lobby. At least that's what I have to do 😞

Let me know if you get stuck somewhere. We'll call in reinforcements 🙂

@GREGOREK

Sorry for not replying sooner, I've been busy with my own little side project.
I've played a few rounds, there are some interesting concepts here. With regards to some of the comments at the bottom of your notes dealing with maxBuiltPerPlayer and requiresUnits. There were updates to the AI when dealing with these types of units. But the AI considers "What is best for me now?" when purchasing and cannot handle upgrades/future consideration type of purchase.
Did a scan review of the xml. I've been reading to many of @TheDog's stuff. That one is the Master of foreach/looping 👍, which makes an xml so much easier to read.

@gregorek said in Jurassic v2.0:

Can new territory connections be made during the game as part of game play?

Think of "Canals". They are a type of territory connection and their attachments can be modified.

Cheers...

@beelee GREAT IDEA

THANK YOU B

@mammothman64
I guess you are talking about registering for lobby-play? Or for the dice server?
Sorry, there is nothing I can do to register an email-address for you.

The trick is not to use gmail in the TripleA software at all (except for posting to the forum in PBF).
You need to use an email-address of a provider that does not automatically block mails from special senders (such as TripleA-servers obviously).

Try for example proton or gmx.

Good luck!