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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Freefolk round 87 TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: Game_of_Thrones, version: 2.0 Game History Round: 87 Combat Move - Freefolk Combat Hit Differential Summary : Savegame

I got a deja vu. Didn't I make that mistake once already? Better unload 2inf to Creta and move a fgt over. Here's the save with edit. triplea_2043_2ita edit.tsvg

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 15 TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942, version: 1.7 Game History Round: 15 Purchase Units - British British buy 3 battleships; Remaining resources: 9 PUs; 0 techTokens; Combat Move - British 6 battleships, 1 carrier, 6 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from India to 38 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from India to 38 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from India to 35 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from India to 35 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 49 Sea Zone to Borneo British take Borneo from Japanese 1 armour moved from 49 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 armour moved from India to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from India to 35 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to East Indies 1 armour moved from 38 Sea Zone to East Indies Combat - British Battle in 38 Sea Zone British attack with 6 battleships, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 6 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport Japanese defend with 5 battleships, 3 carriers, 7 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 transports British roll dice for 1 submarine in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 6 battleships, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 6 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 10/19 hits, 10,33 expected hits Units damaged: 5 battleships owned by the Japanese Japanese roll dice for 5 battleships, 3 carriers, 7 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 transports in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/18 hits, 8,67 expected hits Units damaged: 6 battleships owned by the British 1 destroyer owned by the British, 5 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 38 Sea Zone British roll dice for 6 battleships, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 6 cruisers, 3 fighters and 1 transport in 38 Sea Zone, round 3 : 12/18 hits, 10,00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 5 battleships, 3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 transports in 38 Sea Zone, round 3 : 7/13 hits, 7,00 expected hits 3 fighters owned by the Japanese, 3 carriers owned by the Japanese, 6 cruisers owned by the British, 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese, 4 battleships owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 38 Sea Zone British roll dice for 6 battleships, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 38 Sea Zone, round 4 : 8/11 hits, 6,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 8 transports in 38 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 7 transports owned by the Japanese, 1 battleship owned by the Japanese and 1 bomber owned by the British lost in 38 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone British win with 6 battleships, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 190 Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 6 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Casualties for Japanese: 5 battleships, 3 carriers, 7 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 transports Battle in East Indies Non Combat Move - British 2 armour and 2 infantry moved from India to 35 Sea Zone 2 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 bombers moved from Ningxia to Kwangtung 2 bombers moved from Chinghai to Kwangtung 1 armour moved from Suiyuan to Kiangsu 1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria 1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Manchuria 1 battleship moved from 25 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand Place Units - British 3 battleships placed in 35 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 50 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective 1: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective 3: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective 2: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs 6 units repaired. Combat Hit Differential Summary : British : 2,83 Japanese : -0,33 Savegame

@LaFayette Yea!!! That works! Thank you.

@wc_sumpton Thx alot. It works fine, very well. I am no native speaker, but my English is fine The problems have been syntax issues. I started a new topic with that sea zone theme

So how does the TWW Version 2.0 thing work? I downloaded it, but there is no .exe file or I'm blind...

Up and running in 2.1.... GREAT !!!! so I come back in some weeks with progress... if anyone knows how to reach Veqruin except for triplAdev forum.. I still have to ask him permission to use his work for an alternative version if I want to share it here... thnxs everybody... for the next weeks I'll be alligning Soviet fleet and armies on all Territories ... aaaaahh.....

@Cernel For example, if I'm making a game that is not exactly "chess", I would call it "chess" if the ultimate aim is for it to be exactly like "chess", and maybe this is just impossible, due to the limitation of the program. On the other hand, I would not call it "chess" if it is a game inspired to "chess" but deliberately made different in some ways.

Changed it back to 4 for now, until we agreed on something

@aardvarkpepper What is a "magic hover spot", exactly? @LaFayette is referring to this special location, where you can put your mouse where it flickers between 2 animation states, which doesn't look nice, nor is it intentional. was grey with text buttons, not all nice with the folders and buttons It still is that way, this thread is discussing future UI improvements.

@tinfoil666 said in Fighters landing on carriers being built: @James-McMullan Are you sure that this is not correct behavior? Depending on the map, If placements are done before movement, then, during the movement phase (before or after combat), there can be platforms there to hold the fighters. If you mean the actions you do during the "Mobilize Units" phase, "placements" are done after both "movement" phases in both cases, here. So, in both cases, there is no "platform" to hold any fighter, yet. If placements are done AFTER combat / after-combat movement, then there are no such carriers there by the end of those movement phases. How can a fighter land on a carrier that is not there yet? Aircraft losses due to no landing point would be resolved BEFORE any placements take place. They can because the rules says so since v2 LHTR. First of all, the fighters don't necessarily end their movement during the "Combat Move" phase, and, in fact, they often do so during the "Non Combat Move" phase. Secondarily, the "Non Combat Move" phase is still before the "Mobilize Units" phase, but this is irrelevant, as the fighters land only at the end of the "Mobilize Units" phase, so they are still hovering the zone, waiting for the needed carrier to be placed under them. Ending movement and landing are two different actions: You don't land when you end your movement (unless the rules say so, which they don't, since v2 LHTR). Placements are distinct phases from movement. One has to be done before the other can begin. Correct, but here "movement" doesn't matter. What matters is "landing", that is not part of any "Move" phase and it is, in fact, part of the "Mobilize Units" phase, instead, happending at the end of it. @Panther Please correct me if I got anything wrong.

@wc_sumpton actually, adding the techTokens made my earlier approach work (in my first attach .xml file) so no need for triggers!

@wc_sumpton I see you are right. I said that this option could have been hacked in a number of ways, and it looks like it has already been. This mod starts as default with Russians having a series of movement restrictions, then clearing all them and setting the Type to disallowed before the "Combat" phase of the first Russians turn. Beside the fact that the "Classic: Iron Blitz 3rd Edition" mod is much redundant with respect to the fact that many of its options are already available in regular 3rd Edition, so I've doubts that this mod should even exist at all, instead of just the 3rd Edition having all the "Iron Blitz" options available (and, if it should, then it should be part of the World War II Classic map itself, which it isn't featuring it), this (the fact that the "Iron Blitz" mod is, apparently, the only one offering the "Russia Restricted" option) doesn't make any actual sense, as the Russia Restricted option is actually supposed to be an option for all Classic games since the 2nd Edition (so nothing specifically to do with any "Iron Blitz" related modding). CC: @redrum @LaFayette @RoiEX @Panther for the incongruencies I'm pointing out. EDIT: I also see that the "Classic: Iron Blitz 3rd Edition" mod is forcing you to play with the additional "marine" and "destroyer" units. @wc_sumpton Since I cannot see a way not to have such units (is there any?), with also the added wierdness that you have an option called "Use Destroyers and Artillery", while "destroyer" is already in the game regardless, I suppose that, if he wants to play by regular 3rd (or 2nd) edition rules, with the Russia Restricted option only on top of them (thus without marine and destroyer), this mod is not a solution for him. Am I right? I also see that there is a "Classic: Iron Blitz 2rd Edition" mod too. Assuming "2rd" means "2nd", I can only guess this is a mod of the mod (Iron Blitz) of the mod (3rd Edition) of the the original Classic game reintroducing general 2nd Edition rules back together with the "Iron Blitz" specials (for example, having 2nd Edition rules but also having the marine and destroyer units). This seems very weird to me, if I'm even correctly understanding the matter (and, on top of this, the TripleA program is not fully implementing and distinguishing 2nd and 3rd Edition Classic rules, anyway). Does TripleA actually need 4 different versions of Classic? Is this confusing to me only? Also, is it correct that in "Iron Blitz" you must play with the additional "marine" and "destroyer" units (they are a default element of the game, as a change from the 3rd Edition before Iron Blitz)? Is adding "marine" and "destroyer" the only one difference between the original 3rd Edition and the Iron Blitz sub-version of the same? I think so, but not sure.

Hmm...you should go through "armour" and see if its the same.

@Panther thanks Panther.

@SilverBullet No worries I'll make sure to post it in the standard map downloads

@wc_sumpton ill dig into it

@RogerCooper Right, but the point here was that, in a somewhat realistic game, by the time you reach the point in which Germany "collapses", the player playing that side would have already surrendered, thus you would virtually never actually reach the point.