@battleshipyamato said in France Goes First 2.5 not working:

@panther

I redownloaded France Goes First and the plain Global 1940 UDH Map and it works again on 2.5.

@battleshipyamato

Sure, you can of course try and use this "erroneous workaround" - but this "solution" is part of the problem - as discussed in this topic.

A TripleA-map (or module) should never depend on having preinstalled another one. In this case this has been caused by oversights and errors in different files.
"France goes First" needs some rework before it should be downloadable from within TripleA.

@panzerstahl-helm-0

Guten Abend

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 Italian_LCV, 1 armour and 2 mine_unarmeds; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians Trigger Americans DemoHarbour: has removed 1 demo_harbour owned by Americans in Philippines Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Southern Italy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 96 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece Combat - Italians Battle in Tunisia Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia Italians win, taking Tunisia from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in 93 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the French and 1 cruiser owned by the French lost in 93 Sea Zone Italians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in Yugoslavia Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 2 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 2 infantry Battle in 96 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Greece Italians attack with 1 armour and 6 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Greece, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 6 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 6 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 6 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 1/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Italians Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Italians in Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 Italian_LCV, 1 armour and 2 mine_unarmeds placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1 Italians collect 14 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 14 PUs Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : 0.83 Italians regular : -2.00 Neutral_Allies regular : -2.33 British regular : -0.33

EXP Game 10 Strawberry I 1.tsvg

@zjelcop

Long time no see. You got money G.I.? 😈

Started with @VictoryFirst update to "Classic". Now this mess.

Just uploaded a new version, 1.0.4. Changed all "P" territories to "FPZ" for ' Fighter Patrol Zone" and "G" to "TT". And added new relief tiles.
Maybe better, the old map seemed awkward. 😎

Cheers...

@rogercooper said in Change maxBuiltPerPlayer by a trigger:

@victoryfirst Could this be used to change any value on an unit attachment? Potentially very useful.

For example, in Axis & Allies: Pacific, Commonwealth and American units have a defense strength of one on the first turn. They could start 1 and then be upgraded to their regular values at the end of the Japanese turn.

Yes, definitely yes. Just tried this in my improved module for Axis and Allies D-Day.

The module was already finished for some time but I thought it would be a good idea to add some various game options to help balance the game. The_Good_Captain made a series on A&A D-Day where he recommended some balancing changes. There was one he didn't mention in his video but did consider and that was: "Allied Bombers attack at 4 instead of 3". The game is too pro-German and having this as an optional rule helps out the Allies.

<attachment name="BombersAttackAt4" attachTo="USA-UK" javaClass="RulesAttachment" type="player"> <option name="gameProperty" value="Allied Bombers Attack At 4"/> </attachment> <attachment name="triggerAttachmentBombersAttackAt4" attachTo="USA-UK" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player"> <option name="conditions" value="BombersAttackAt4"/> <option name="unitType" value="UKbomber:USAbomber"/> <option name="unitAttachmentName" value="UnitAttachment" count="unitAttachment"/> <option name="unitProperty" value="attack" count="4"/> <option name="uses" value="1"/> <option name="when" value="before:ParaSurpriseBattle"/> </attachment>

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There you have it! Very useful indeed.

@VictoryFirst

I did some research on this, see here
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2892/how-i-am-using-movementcostmodifier

@gregorek

Do rule changes disturb order in the purchase menu? (ie. remove then add to end, which changes location.) -

Yes, remove a purchase shuffles the purchases after the remove and an adds to the end.

You would have to rewrite the whole of the production list every time you did an upgrade to keep the locations constant.

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Currently there is no function to test a resource.

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Personally I would remove the TIMER and see if the game plays well enough without it.

Good, Bad, Ugly?

I would let the players decide. I will be one of them 😁

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As @wc_sumpton suggested create a Jurassic - Official Thread under 'Maps & Mods, ask your questions under it and show case your progress. Keep the first post to advertise the mod.

@rogercooper Nice, thanks.

@gregorek whatever amount there is it is not noticeable versus the other background activities

your concern and input are appreciated and i am by no means the real expert here but i believe these issues should not be worrying you 🙂

Separate activateTrigger's solved it. Set up an always false condition, so the property modifiers dont launch independently. Issue closed.
FYI, Made new units and recolored with drop shadows. Testing game play and balance. Hope to post a beta for others to kick around in a couple weeks.
Thanks for all the help.

@GREGOREK

In my copy of Jurassic, I noticed that there are no technologies. By adding an empty technology section:

<technology> </technology>

The Technologies Tab/Window can be removed.

Cheers...

@futsal Given the complexity of the game, the AI is actually reasonable. It is generally better than in other wargames. The TripleA is superior to the AI for Axis & Allies Online, which only plays one version of the game.

The type of AI algorithm used in Chess (Alpha-Beta) would not work in TripleA because of the vast number of legal moves and the random elements. There are some people working on using neural net AI's like Alpha Zero but I have not seen any results yet. I have doubts about their effectiveness.

I do expect future improvements in the AI, but they are likely to be piecemeal resolutions of specific issues .

To have fun with the AI, I suggest playing only one country, so you need to deal with AI allies. Giving handicaps to your opponents can be useful as well.

@wc_sumpton said in Restricting unit builds:

<property name="Unit Placement Restrictions" value="true" editable="false">
<boolean/>
</property>

That was it. Thank you for the help.

@thulsadoom42

Welcome to the site !

Idk how things work specifically all that well, I just bang away until it works. Probably not the best approach 🙂

You can have windows and Linux both installed on. I can't remember. I think I had to do some sort of virtual thing. Anyway, I hate windows so I rarely use it. Probably because I don't know how lol

At any rate, it looks like it's the triplea install giving you trouble. As Panther says, triplea should auto add java for you, so should be good there.

When I DL triplea I don't use the installer command. I just go to permissions and hit execute.

I'll DL a prerelease I've been meaning to do and show you how I do it.

I'm gonna DL 15025 as recommended by The Dog. It's the last one that centers on your Capital. You can force individual maps to do it by tweaking the xml but that's a fair amount of work and frankly shouldn't be necessary.

Anyway, it's a nice feature that you take for granted until it's gone. Then it becomes annoying. It's a simple fix but w/e not my department 🙂

Gonna go here for the prerelease

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15025

you want the unix one as you already know 🙂

Hmm won't let me post the pic. Try a smaller version.

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So I have 2 Triplea/triplea folders. One with a Big T, which is where the releases live and one with a small t where the games/maps and saves live.

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Here's the Big T

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You can see I have 14962 and then another release in a separate folder 15330

I go to downloads and right click on 15025

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Go to properties and hit Permissions and then execute

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Then open a terminal and drag 15025 into it

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hit enter

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and then follow the prompts. I usually put it in a different folder 15025 will call it. Have to be careful or you have to type the whole thing in.

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Then just keep hitting next

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then Finish and it should fire up

You can see the Java version and the triplea version upper left.

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Oh yea, I guess I shoulda said this first. I can't get the 2.5 stable to work on linux anymore. Probably a couple years now. I've mentioned it to dan a few times but nothing ever came of it.

This is what happens when I try it

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So you can play local or by Forum/email but can't use the lobby. I haven't checked the 2.7 lobby in a while but I think it's still being worked on.

So you will need to use windows to access the lobby. At least that's what I have to do 😞

Let me know if you get stuck somewhere. We'll call in reinforcements 🙂

@GREGOREK

Sorry for not replying sooner, I've been busy with my own little side project.
I've played a few rounds, there are some interesting concepts here. With regards to some of the comments at the bottom of your notes dealing with maxBuiltPerPlayer and requiresUnits. There were updates to the AI when dealing with these types of units. But the AI considers "What is best for me now?" when purchasing and cannot handle upgrades/future consideration type of purchase.
Did a scan review of the xml. I've been reading to many of @TheDog's stuff. That one is the Master of foreach/looping 👍, which makes an xml so much easier to read.

@gregorek said in Jurassic v2.0:

Can new territory connections be made during the game as part of game play?

Think of "Canals". They are a type of territory connection and their attachments can be modified.

Cheers...

@beelee GREAT IDEA

THANK YOU B

@mammothman64
I guess you are talking about registering for lobby-play? Or for the dice server?
Sorry, there is nothing I can do to register an email-address for you.

The trick is not to use gmail in the TripleA software at all (except for posting to the forum in PBF).
You need to use an email-address of a provider that does not automatically block mails from special senders (such as TripleA-servers obviously).

Try for example proton or gmx.

Good luck!