@Michael-Vitale Is port 3300 open? Maybe a firewall blocks incoming/outgoing connections on port 3300.
(Assuming you did not change the default port when setting it up.)

The thing I've notice consistently is that the AI is able to move infantry from West Canada to East Canada, pick them up on transports, and transport them to Karelia all on one turn. I've also noticed several instances of AI bombers traveling 7 spaces. I'll try and send a saved game if I can.

@Gargantua said in 301 can't login error:

Latest Java is installed, latest TripleA is installed, and there are no username issues.... but we'll go over it again.

Have you checked for an outdated Java in "i4j_jres"?

Doing the same procedure as started in https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/21961
might help to resolve the issue.

@CrazyIvan I fully understand that.
However it is not "unstable" in a sense that it crashes your system. In fact it is a constant further development of the current stable.
But yes, stick to the current stable for now. There is enough to learn 😉

@CrazyIvan Theorically you are right, and it may be argued this is a bug, as, by correct rule, the American player should have the control of the Chinese power, so you should not be required to select Chinese too (TripleA allows Americans and Chinese to be played by different players, but this is not permissible under the intended ruleset).

Thanks to Scouse for asking the question and RoiEX for answering

The culprit was Avast anti virus

@colin Glad to hear that.

For the pre-release, you can install that alongside the current release so that you can potentially test out the new features/AI improvements. If you have 64-bit windows then the download link is here for the latest pre-release: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/download/1.10.14614/TripleA_1.10.14614_windows-64bit.exe. Best thing to do is when it asks for an install folder just add the version number to the end of it so you don't override your existing actual release install.

Eventually, you'll probably want to join the MP lobby or ask for a game here on the forums as TWW was really designed to be played against other humans 🙂

Generally, the notes of the games of the 3 Global maps are in need of overhaul, also since the engine issues are not completely correct and partially obsolete due to recent changes.

Moving to Help & Questions, if @RoiEX is not opposed.

@mikemikemike You are welcome, enjoy gaming 🙂

@Schulz I usually don't give the AI a bid, unless the scenario is unbalanced. I take only 1 country, leaving me with AI allies as well as AI foes. We don't want to really lose to the AI.

@redrum I post this as an example of how this rule, that I deem to be silly, can impact in a game.

This is the chat we just had:

Dany: what rule are we using for loading trannies?
tcurin: in terms of block?
Dany: now with new engine set up
Dany: we can load after combat
tcurin: if they were in combat, no
Dany: k because now they can't move combat and non combat
tcurin: this case we need to solve
tcurin: can i load these transports in NCM?
Dany: so has exemple they wont be able too come back in 24
tcurin: sz23
Dany: no they will be stuck in 232
tcurin: ok, solve that 🙂
Dany: but maybe they had for counter that they load after combat
Dany: since we use too move them away in combat and back in non combat
Dany: You were slapped by Dany
Dany: what do you think Cernel?
Cernel: let me read
Cernel: yeah no by revised rules you cannot load them in non combat
Cernel: if you moved them in combat
Cernel: which is dumb
Dany: but now engine allows load after combat
Dany: if they didnt move
tcurin: if i keep them in sz24
Cernel: yes because by revised rules you can load or unload (not both) after combat if you took part in a battle without unloading
tcurin: i would be able to load them?
Dany: yes
Dany: engine will alow
tcurin: that is wrong i guess
Dany: but not in previous version
Cernel: but if you move them away from the hostile zone, they count as having move during combat move, and don't have the special bonus of being able no load
Cernel: it is not wrong dany, just dumb
Dany: well i would like too adapt too new engine evently
Dany: to load after combat
tcurin: i would preffer that i can move them in CM phase and load them in NCM
Cernel: if those transports remain in 24 and take part in the battle without unloading, they will be able to load or unload but not both
Dany: since trannies don't have attacking value
Cernel: if you only move them away to 23 sea zone, they will be able to do nothing, during non combat move
Dany: so let's play with enigne rules Tcurin?
Dany: a load after combat allowed
Dany: ?
tcurin: ok
tcurin: but not unload?
Cernel: well, before being the engine rules, those are the revised rules; just the old engine gave freedom to the players to follow them or not
Dany: no engine won'T allow
Cernel: so as I said
Cernel: if you keep the transports in 24
Cernel: you should be able to either:
Cernel: 1) load them during non combat move, keeping what you loaded on board
Cernel: 2) now load something on them, and then unload it during non combat move
Cernel: but you should not be able to both load and unload in non combat move
tcurin: option 2 is not possible i guess?
Cernel: tho since the sea zone is hostile you cannot load in 24 sea zone now
tcurin: they are in battle zone
Cernel: correct
Cernel: so basically, in this situation only things you can do is either:
Cernel: 1) keeping them in 24 sea zone, do battle and in non combat move you will only able to load units on them and keeping such units on board
Cernel: 2) moving them away to 23 or 22 sea zone and do nothing else now and nothing else during non combat move
tcurin: yes
Cernel: realistically, what I believe you should be able to do is to move out to 23 sea zone in combat movement, then, during non combat movement, moving back to a cleared 24 sea zone and eventually load a...
Cernel: nd unload, but this is against the rules
tcurin: agree on that too
Dany: well it use to be that
Dany: engine allowed that before
tcurin: but let's follow rules on this, altough not ideal
Cernel: that is just because the engine didn't support those rules, but you were supposed to follow them anyways (since this is revised rules)

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So, I'm not against enforcing this rule, as I said, since this is the actual rule for the basic Word War II Revised game, but I think it would be good to have either a property that, if set true, would allow to split movement of all units between combat and non combat movement or, even better, an option for define if each unit is able to still move during non combat movement if moved during combat movement or participated in a battle (default true if the unit is air, of course), and, then, a property for validating such option. This editable property (user option) can, of course, be added to World At War, I suppose off as default.

In the above case, this would allow the player to move those Russians transports from 24 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone during Combat Movement, then, during Non Combat Movement, go back to 24 Sea Zone and freely load and unload.

Tho I have to say that the recently added property for being able to load in hostile sea zones (not disposable in the mentioned game) goes a long way in reducing the distortive impact of this no-split movement rule.

@beelee You're mostly right.
While on Windows Java 11 should work without any problems (at least using the latest pre-release, not sure about the latest stable).
However on Debian based system there seems to be an issue that causes the game to crash:
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/4372
Rolling back to java 1.8 should fix the issue for now.

@Tayleron That's correct. Its essentially just how LL works for battles where it adds up all the unit strength and only rolls for the remainder. For tech, you can only get 1 tech per turn so once you have 6 tech tokens then you automatically will get a tech.

@LaFayette thanks all! a little clunky but I think I have the hang of it now.

Continuing the tradition, here is a new "what to do if the lobby is down" thread: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1242/what-to-do-if-the-lobby-is-down

FWIW, The next release that will come out in perhaps a few months or so will help make this easier with a 'report to TripleA' button that will be available when any error occurs. So in the future when the lobby is dead, you'll be able to report from in-game after the game fails to connect.

awesome thanks good to be back online. 🙂