@trout

Ok Germany has a serious question for you.

I’ve tried a few times to share with you my absolute joy at playing these games and the fact that I find the process of calculating multiple turns ahead to be immensely fun. I also said that I have little concern for who wins or loses.

So here we are at another turning point ; a fork in the road so to speak.

So I can populate the Baltic states with 59 units.

And you could then attack with everything USSR has which is also 59 units.

That’s a 26 percent chance to win so it’s really an outcome connected to bad dice or good dice more than strategy.

So how do you want me to play this ?

I have an offer that I’d like you to consider.

I suggest that indeed I move in there. And you can attack and we play that out unless it’s one sided…

But that we play our next game by returning to this point and Germany chooses a more conservative German 7 turn where that attack is delayed, if ever.

How you think ?

@johnnycat Game History

Round: 6 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 3 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 Escort_Convoy, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone ANZAC take 35 Sea Zone from Japanese 1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 3 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 fighters moved from Queensland to 35 Sea Zone Combat - ANZAC Battle in Philippines Changer loiter and taunt; ANZAC attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Changer defend; Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 armour and 2 fighters ANZAC roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Philippines, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 2 fighters in Philippines, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Philippines 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Philippines ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Philippines, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in Philippines, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Philippines 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Philippines ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery in Philippines, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter in Philippines, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the ANZAC lost in Philippines Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 fighter Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Norway Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Denmark Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 105 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - ANZAC Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger BritishParaBoost atDenmark: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Denmark Trigger Wolfpack at105 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 105 Sea Zone Trigger BritishParaBoost atNorway: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Norway 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 air_transport moved from New South Wales to New Zealand Place Units - ANZAC 1 carrier placed in 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Queensland 1 infantry placed in Queensland 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs Trigger ANZAC Liberates Celebes: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 1 PUs; end with 18 PUs Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 20 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs Purchase Units - French Note to players French: <body><br /><font size="5"><b> NOTE</b><br /></font><font size="3"><br /></font><font size="5">If Using Tech Save Game Now and Select in Game Options and Restart</b></body> Combat Move - French Combat - French Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Norway Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Denmark Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 105 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - French Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger BritishParaBoost atDenmark: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Denmark Trigger Wolfpack at105 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 105 Sea Zone Trigger BritishParaBoost atNorway: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Norway Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.17 ANZAC regular : -1.17

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@Alexander

Hello sir,

these sneaky Japanese!
Good move!

I added 7 IPC to the Russian treasury.

below the dices for the 3 LM in Yunnan.

No hits.

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Note to players Americans: <body><b>It is Late 1941 and the USA May Now Send Lend Lease Aid to the UK.<br><br><img src="USUKLL.png"/><b></body> Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Americans buy 2 ArmoredInfantrys, 1 Escort, 1 USANC, 1 carrier, 1 elite, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceAmericans: Americans has 6 Rails placed in Eastern United States 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 usa_armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine, 4 transports, 1 usa_armour and 2 usa_fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 usa_armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 usa_fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 usa_fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 USAbomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone 4 usa_fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 1 Heavy_BB, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 7 infantry and 4 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone Americans take 17 Sea Zone from Japanese 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima Combat - Americans Battle in 6 Sea Zone Americans attack with 6 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 Escort, 1 Escort_Convoy and 1 transport Americans roll dice for 6 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 Escort, 1 Escort_Convoy and 1 transport in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 usa_fighter owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Japanese, 1 Escort_Convoy owned by the Japanese and 1 Escort owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone Americans win with 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Americans: 1 usa_fighter Casualties for Japanese: 1 Escort, 1 Escort_Convoy and 1 transport Battle in Gibraltar Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 usa_armour Italians defend with 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 1 harbour and 6 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Gibraltar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 usa_armour in Gibraltar, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Gibraltar 1 aaGun owned by the Italians lost in Gibraltar Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 usa_armour in Gibraltar, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry in Gibraltar, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 2,67 expected hits 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Americans lost in Gibraltar 1 aaGun owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Gibraltar Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 usa_armour in Gibraltar, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Gibraltar, round 4 : 1/7 hits, 2,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Gibraltar Americans roll dice for 1 usa_armour in Gibraltar, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Gibraltar, round 5 : 1/7 hits, 2,33 expected hits 1 usa_armour owned by the Americans lost in Gibraltar 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Gibraltar Italians win with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 usa_armour Casualties for Italians: 2 aaGuns and 2 infantry Battle in 16 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 USAbomber and 1 usa_fighter Japanese defend with 1 Japan_destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 USAbomber and 1 usa_fighter in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 Japan_destroyer in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 Japan_destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 16 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 USAbomber and 1 usa_fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japan_destroyer Battle in Iwo Jima Changer loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 1 artillery and 7 infantry Changer defend; Japanese defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB, 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 3,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Iwo Jima, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Iwo Jima Americans win, taking Iwo Jima from Japanese with 1 artillery and 7 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Americans Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveAmericans: has removed 6 Rails owned by Americans in Eastern United States 5 usa_fighters and 1 usa_tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 usa_fighter moved from 16 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 USAbomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to Midway 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 2 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 usa_fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway 1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 4 Rails moved from Eastern United States to Western United States 4 Rails and 4 infantry moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Alaska Place Units - Americans 1 ArmoredInfantry and 1 elite placed in Eastern United States 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 Escort placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 USANC, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 ArmoredInfantry and 2 infantry placed in Western United States 1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Trigger Americans RemoveUSAConvoySZ101Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by Americans in 101 Sea Zone Trigger Americans RemoveUSAConvoySZ101Invert: Americans has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 101 Sea Zone Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Americans AdvancedProduction: Americans met a national objective for an additional 14 PUs; end with 71 PUs Trigger Americans Loses Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional -3 PUs; end with 68 PUs Trigger USA Controls IwoJima Pacific Expanded: Americans met a national objective for an additional 1 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 79 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 89 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Combat - Chinese Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Sikang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 1 PU; end with 1 PU Objective Advanced Production 1 Infantry: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 4 PUs Purchase Units - British Trigger British LendLeaseFeeNavy: buyNavyLL added to productionBritish Trigger British LendLeaseFeeAir: buyAirLL added to productionBritish British buy 1 Escort, 1 UK_LCV, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 10 infantry, 2 mine_unarmeds and 3 uk_paras; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 NavyLendLease; Combat Move - British Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceBritish: British has 2 Rails placed in Union of South Africa 1 elite moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone 2 Seafires, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 elite, 1 transport and 2 uk_fighters moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 uk_fighters and 2 uk_tactical_bombers moved from Egypt to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 uk_fighter moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria 3 artilleries, 3 commandos and 10 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 elite moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco Combat - British Battle in Morocco Battle in 96 Sea Zone British attack with 1 destroyer, 2 uk_fighters and 2 uk_tactical_bombers Italians defend with 2 cruisers and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 uk_fighters and 2 uk_tactical_bombers in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 cruisers and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 uk_fighter owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone 2 cruisers owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 uk_fighter and 2 uk_tactical_bombers in 96 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1,67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone British win, taking Morocco from Italians with 1 uk_fighter and 2 uk_tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 uk_fighter Casualties for Italians: 2 cruisers and 1 transport Battle in Yunnan Changer loiter and taunt; British attack with 3 artilleries, 3 commandos and 10 infantry Changer defend; Japanese defend with 1 Japan_Engineer and 4 infantry British roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 commandos and 10 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 5/16 hits, 4,17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 Japan_Engineer and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits 1 Japan_Engineer owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 3 artilleries, 3 commandos and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17 Casualties for Japanese: 1 Japan_Engineer and 4 infantry Battle in Iraq British attack with 1 infantry and 1 uk_fighter Neutral_Axis defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 uk_fighter in Iraq, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 2 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq 1 uk_fighter owned by the British retreated 1 infantry owned by the British retreated to Northwest Persia Neutral_Axis win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 1 infantry Battle in Alexandria British attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria British win, taking Alexandria from Italians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - British Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveBritish: has removed 2 Rails owned by British in Egypt 1 uk_fighter moved from Iraq to Egypt 1 mech_infantry moved from Kenya to Egypt 2 Rails and 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Egypt 6 infantry moved from India to Burma 3 aaGuns moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 uk_fighter and 2 uk_tactical_bombers moved from 96 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone Place Units - British Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone 6 infantry and 2 mine_unarmeds placed in India 1 Escort and 1 carrier placed in 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Egypt 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa 1 UK_LCV, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 3 uk_paras placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British Trigger British RemoveUKConvoySZ81Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by British in 81 Sea Zone Trigger British RemoveUKConvoySZ81Invert: British has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 81 Sea Zone Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,1,2,1,6,4,3,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1 British collect 41 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 41 PUs Trigger British AdvancedProduction: British met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 47 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 1,83 Italians regular : -2,67 Japanese regular : -2,33 Neutral_Axis regular : -0,67 British regular : 3,00

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@trout if that is the Philippines then of course not 🫡