So there doesn't appear to be an appetite to rebalance this map based on the territory differences between RTW and 270BC. So I've taken the improved unit images and dice images and merged them into standard 270BC: https://github.com/triplea-maps/270bc/pull/4 I will also be reviewing the changes in 270BC variants to see if any balances adjustments should be added from those. New official map thread: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1448/270bc-official-thread ron-murhammer created this issue in triplea-maps/270bc closed 1.7 updates #4

So, since I want it both production based and to be achieved any time, rather than at end round only, and much prefer it showing clearly in the customizable settings, I'll use this hack of having multiple endrounds, as it doesn't appear causing any troubles (and the game is not meant to ever have any triggers). But I'm open to refactor it if it would be possible to achieve the same result with victory triggers/conditions, eventually. I guess since we assume multiple endrounds is not intentionally supported, no reasons to document it. Still, I have to say that personally doesn't like the fact that this endround step manages both hardcoded victories and sets uses for triggers, as they seem unrelated matters, and, in my mind, it should have rather been called "victory" step, doing only that (traditionally as the last step in the sequence).

@ubernaut It is well known that in all basic games (as well as the NWO series) there are absolutely no "kamikaze" related limits at what you can do during the conduct combat phases. You can freely take carriers out or retreat them with no regard to what will happen to your fighters. This is why I said that, substantially, the item primarily discussed at the topic is unrelated to low luck and easy to clarify: no kamikaze limits during anything happening in conduct combat, while you are in the course of that phase. As said, the only indirect element is that, while you are in the combat movement phase, you may have to think in term of what might happen during conduct combat; and here indeed the rules may be reinterpreted based on low luck.

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non - Triple A I played a cruel rpg game called Eternal Lands and I started and I wanted my character to not kill animals so it only killed monsters at low levels (never saw anyone else do that) and I stayed awake 70 hours to finally level and kill my first goblin.... but for Triple A yous got me cuz I don't think I ever had a match longer than 15 hours but cool this game rocks for cool matches

@Numetalfan I didn't test the game, but just did what I suggested to do. I see in the xml there are several istances of simply "Americans", namely: <playerProduction player="Americans" frontier="production"/> <playerRepair player="Americans" frontier="repair"/> <attachment name="techAttachment" attachTo="Americans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TechAttachment" type="player"> (the above figures twice) <option name="capital" value="Americans"/> Since "Americans" doesn't actually exist, all those instances need to be erased, and the related code being rewritten accordingly. As I didn't modify or test the game, there may be other issues with it.

@redrum yeah that would be awesome

@ubernaut Ah ok. But yeah, your further calcs demonstrate it working very clearly.

No problem. Yes, 1.10 is incompatible with 1.9 has to do with the way savegames are saved and such

@john-stro You have got as well an outdated Java as a very outdated TripleA version on your system. You should remove the old Java through the Windows control panel. Uninstall the old TripleA as well. Now download and install the latest 64bit Java 8 from https://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp Then download and install the latest TripleA 64bit stable from http://www.triplea-game.org/download/ Retry starting TripleA and please report what happens. In your FW TripleA.exe needs to pass through ports 80,443,3300,3304 Good luck

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3 TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7 Game History Round: 3 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 9x factory; Remaining resources: 36 PUs; 0 techTokens; Germans buy 3 armour and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from France to Northwestern Europe 1 infantry moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe 1 infantry moved from France to Northwestern Europe 1 infantry moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe 1 armour moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe 6 armour moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R. 1 artillery moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R. 3 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R. 4 fighters moved from Poland to Karelia S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from Germany to Karelia S.S.R. 1 armour moved from Egypt to French Equatorial Africa Germans take Anglo-Egypt Sudan from British Germans take French Equatorial Africa from British Combat - Germans Battle in Northwestern Europe Germans attack with 1 armour and 4 infantry British defend with 1 artillery Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 4 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery in Northwestern Europe, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Northwestern Europe Germans win, taking Northwestern Europe from British with 1 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery Battle in Karelia S.S.R. Germans attack with 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 4 infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 7 infantry AA fire in Karelia S.S.R. : 0/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 4 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 10/16 hits, 6.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 7 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 2/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 7 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 artillery owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R. Germans win, taking Karelia S.S.R. from Russians with 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 7 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 4 infantry moved from Poland to Bulgaria Romania 5 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 4 armour moved from Germany to Poland 1 armour moved from Egypt to Morocco Algeria 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Germany 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Poland 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Poland 1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Germany Place Units - Germans 3 armour and 7 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective 1: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUs Objective 3: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Germans : 3.00 British : 0.67 AA fire in Karelia S.S.R. : : -0.83 Russians : -0.67 Savegame

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Here is a fun one where the AI Allies have been keeping us on our toes... Axis went with the slow push to expand carving up the conquests between the various minors along the way, but got stalled up in the Urals and the Russians had us fighting tooth and nail to take out Siberia. AI Soviets meanwhile have been launching some effective counter attacks using their bomber stack, with few furious bombing runs to sweep Japanese production on the mainland. Yakutsk is still kicking and British fighter support has kept the far east fairly active. US pacific fleet just did an end around towards Tokyo when the Japanese fleet finally launch from Truk , and AI Stalin has used the opportunity to re-established a final stronghold in Vladivostock! The Americans are stacking fighters to the ceiling! Germans just bought their first nuke to deal with the situation... hehe good times. Elk vs Allies 20 synth fuel per starting factory flat bonus Japan round 12.tsvg AI Australia felt better after the increase on starting fuel, they've been keeping Japan on edge bouncing defending fighters around. South Africa was knocked off and British-India is near collapse, but the rest of the gang is still up to no good in West Africa. Think it could go another half dozen rounds A pretty Epic battle vs AI Britain for control of Mexico City! hehe been taking this one full invasion USA, but the North American air fortress is pretty impressive. Japan didn't have enough strength at the ready after the long campaigns vs India and Russia to turn around and directly take on Australia or USA. So instead they blew past Hawaii and the West Coast and headed to Panama. Axis are sweeping across the South America now, with German tanks leading the way and a massive Italian army finally ready follow along for the Atlantic crossing. Even with tactical nuke strikes by both Germany and Japan over several rounds, the British and Americans are determined to bloody us still. US AI has fifty some odd fighters defending the homeland. Good times! This one might go into the 1960s lol Elk vs Allies 20 synth fuel per starting factory flat bonus Germany round 20.tsvg

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 6 TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Revised, version: 1.4.1 Game History Round: 6 Purchase Units - British British buy 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 bombers moved from Sinkiang to West Russia 1 fighter moved from Russia to West Russia 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 3 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 3 Sea Zone to 4 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 4 Sea Zone to Archangel 1 artillery moved from 4 Sea Zone to Archangel 1 artillery moved from 4 Sea Zone to Archangel 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Archangel Combat - British Battle in Archangel British attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 battleship in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel British win, taking Archangel from Germans with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in West Russia British attack with 2 bombers and 1 fighter Germans defend with 2 infantry British roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 fighter in West Russia, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in West Russia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in West Russia British win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for British: 1 fighter Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Archangel to Russia 2 bombers moved from West Russia to Russia Place Units - British 3 armour placed in India 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Germans : 0.33 British : 0.50 Savegame

@redrum said in Domination 1914 No Mans Land fails to start [FIXED]: @Cernel Right. Which I'm sure inconsistent naming exists. I agree that would seem better and I'm not sure why the double folder was done. Either way we are getting off topic and better to open a separate thread if you want to discuss it further. Since we have verified that at least the file name in main folder must be the same as the "mapName" in the xml, that should be right for all old maps (otherwise they would not have started in the past) and also right for all or most new maps, as otherwise the mapmaker would have failed testing his own map before getting it to download list. So, I don't think there is anything to worry about this, as currently either a map has the same main folder name as the one spelled in the xml of the games themselves (they can be more than one per map), or it is already not working anyways. Inconsistent naming should really not exist, since in the first folder (from the download list naming) it would currently cause the map to fail to start and in the second folder it would have already done that when the mapmaker was testing it (likely in its simplest and unzipped format), before getting it to download list. So, I think it would be better at least picking one of download list and repository names (I'd definitely say the repository name), instead of, as I understand it, the current process of having first download list name, then repository name, then the actual "map" folder, that I don't think anybody is going to dream it's working this way, or at least this thing should be documented somewhere, that the mapmakers must be sure to have both equal to the xml "mapName", or issues like this one I'm pretty sure will keep happening overtime, and they are a bit problematic, especially since they would leave wrongly named maps inside users' folders, still adding games to that users' selection lists (either calling another folder or failing to find any, like it was the case here, depending whether you already downloaded this map in the past or not), that most users will fail to get around tracking and deleting manually, since they are not going to be overwritten by the correctly named ones (once available).