@trout @beelee.

OK so update from the Globe Trotter

I finally got to really look at this game... sorry but with fun travel and work stuff I have not really had the time. And I am rather unhappy and wonder if we should start over.

I do, however, return home tomorrow. !!!

The problem with this amazingly wonderful game is that UNLESS EACH PLAYER PLAYS ACCORDING TO A CLEAR SCRIPT TURNS 1-5 it feels pointless to play and call it fun or challenging or rewarding.... This reminds me of the 3-move chess checkmate we would try to bait kids into doing when myself and other chess kids were like 5 years old.

Example: My last UK Burma move loses India. I am sure. I did not realize how these units really move and how many there are. Nor how useless those landmines are.

Nor how planes work.

Nor the value of defense or special units.

Nor that China's plane cannot fly off to India and be useful there after China falls

Nor the subtlety of how to make planes intercept - all other AA games it is usually pointless to intercept with planes. Sorry it is called something else but I mean when the 3 planes in neighboring zones can intercept your attacking force. And things like make sure North UK and South UK each have 3 planes.

And what is the diff between tact bombers and fighters in this regard...

Nor the value of territory type - though maybe there is none in this game? Are there mountains and swamps and different defense values? Most games have this.

And then there is paras... hahahaha. It is SUPER FRUSTRATING is that I cannot get paratroopers to work anywhere and clearly have no idea how they operate

It may surprise you but I am NOT worried about the USSR assuming I understand how to use the RR counters correctly.

giving up Novgorod is likely fine but do I save the money to destroy the factory there? Does that stuff matter?

So were I to move back from the Burma territory then maybe there would be some chance in this game.

THE GOOD NEWS IS:

Instead of a video I feel I NOW KNOW WHAT TO MAKE to help people play this game: AN EARLY GAME STARTING GUIDE!!!!!

I feel a strong need for A sort of TO DO list that applies more or less no matter what. Though some things like "be sure to save 7 rubbles to invade Japan" are more optional...

But having enough cash to purchase those turn 5 conscripts is not really optional at all and players need to know this, not get surprised later. I'm actually surprised that stuff is not just assigned on those turns. What is the point of having to plan to pay for it when anything less is not ideal game play?

I feel that Without following such a set of basic early turn concepts, there is no point in playing against anyone else that understands this game.

For example.
On Russia Turn 5 (not going to call it 1942 as that is just misleading ) USR gets a crap load of inf called conscripts.

But not really.

Or rather, it is a MAYBE.

Unless USR saves like 40 rubbles it is pointless.

Or is it? The rules are clear in some things yet not others so I have to ask. And if those 20 conscripts are not bought - or is it 29? Then what?

Heavy Sigh

But in order to do that... they better not buy any shiny special units too early. So no buying generals or whatever all that special unit stuff it called.

The USSR should only be purchasing defense stuff - I know this. But I don't know HOW to do this. In regular AA I would just purchase inf. OF course. no armor for many turns. And keep their meager air alive always

But in this game I have no idea - despite knowing the concept well.

Similar with UK. I've been pretty much trying to keep UK to just absolute necessary stuff but wasted money on an Egypt factory too early. I had no idea that south african factory could take its place instead.

And the naval units continue to confuse me - with 9 fighters I guess I could plop down some UK naval units because the idea is to attrit Germany and not win right?

How do the allies do more than void operation sea lion?

And I thought paras could jump over to France to muck things up but that does not work. What am I doing wrong with them?

And what is all this special unit stuff really for? Marines? Elites? Commandos? Russian commissars in town... wow... confusing. and some need to be paired with artillery ... Some with transgender martian mules... too confusing early on when clearly all the allies need is to stack up defense until they can take the lead.

Anyway, I am just disturbed by every turn figuring out that "were I to have done something else the turn before I would be ready for this turn's special unit offers..."

So I suggest we either start over and even go further to agree to likely running a few games of just starting turns 1 - 5 in order to figure this stuff out.

At very least please let me redo at last the past UK turn since losing India turn 6 makes for no real challenge. And before and during that I will put together a guide that makes clear what to expect in terms of turns 1 through 5 for the various allies major powers and then do the same for the axis when I play the bad guys.

All this buying special units is crap - or if not, then I need to lay out the conditions and reasons for it.

This game is truly amazing Gents... but rather silly to play when the basics are not understood. Sorry but I am not smart enough to just jump in and play it with standard axis and allies experience. I am used to playing games like Third Reich or massive simulations of the entire eastern front...

But this game is all RULES HEAVY early on and not really something to actually play and have fun with unless all that early stuff is known and mastered before even starting.

Sorry - I don't mean to bitch .... but I am bitching... 🙂

@beelee @LaFayette not sure what the bot issue is but i am currently mid game and have had trouble trying to run multiple versions of the engine in the past generally try to finish a game before i mess with the engine im running

@trout

That A&M quarterback isn't very accurate lol

I'm hitting the wall. Almost back to a normal cycle. 🙂 Finished the multi Game report. It's a 60 minute read lol

See if I can rally for SSR. Confidence is kinda low 🙂

@nothingtoseehere wasnt able to look at it yesterday some bullshit with my house but should have some time today

@Simon-Hibbs
If you are having problems with the latest versions of TripleA (as I am)

For AI testing Im using
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15256

Currently I have 7 versions of TripleA on my PC
This is old but is still valid, if you did not know how to do it 😉
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3724/how-to-have-triplea-2-5-2-6-installed-at-the-same-time

@lafayette That works.

@madvitale

I'm sorry that you are having troubles. I personally do not use Notepad, it's okay for small quick edits, I use Notepad++.
I'll include a zip file with the changes.
World_At_War.zip
Special Note "Transport Casualties Restricted" value must stay false in the xml as Transports and B.Transports have a defensive value. The value can be changed in the 'Map Options' (lowest button on the left panel).

Cheers...

@lafayette maybe i’m mistaken i figured u needed to create GitHub account in order to use the bug report forms

@ted-self
Im glad you like the map and it has got you all excited 😁 even at your age.

It was exasperating and fun to design the map.

If you want another steep learning curve map that will challenge your grey cells then try 1941 Global Command Decision
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3326/1941-global-command-decision-official-thread

Updated 1st post
Put WW1 (1870-1930) in table
Added more descriptive text

WW1.....................(1870-1930)

Emoji Game/map Location Dice min Ver Resources Features 🤼1⃣🗺↔▫ 1888A Steam & Steel 219 d8 2.7 PU, Tech, Diplomacy 8 faction FFA, 5 TT Random allocation, Tech Tree (like Age of Tribes), AI will go to war and get impending winner alliance, Custom Production tabs, Upkeep, Simulates winter 🤼▫▫ Battle of Jutland 1040 d6 1.5 PU 2 Player, Fleet action, Stacking limits the number of ships per hex 🤼▫▫ Domination 1914 No Mans Land 671 d6 1.5 PU, techTokens 11 Player, interesting trench/gas mechanics along with simple tech system 🤼🗺🤔 Over the Top 451 d6 1.9 PU 11 Player, PvP only, Railways (Canals to simulate railways like Civil War), Tech Trees (like Age of Tribes), 3 move phase (usually 2)

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Link 1st post
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

If this is the latest documentation it will need amending to reflect your post above.
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/main/docs/map-making/reference/map-yml-file.md

I see 'version' is in the docs, that should be taken out.. The rest of it at a glance looks okay. Was there something else in there that needs updating? As far as YAML goes, it's a question of the differing formats. In the shorthand format, the quotes are needed so that YAML knows where the field ends. In the long-hand format, with 'map_name' on its own line, YAML infers the data type based on the first character of the value. So, it can tell the value is text, and YAML treats the rest of the line as text.

A lot of maps, map.yml format will be like mine, single player there appears to be no problem. However will the new 2.7 lobby work correctly?

There are going to be two servers! The lobby server and "support server". It was planned to have 3, {lobby, support, maps}, but maps & support were combined.

Immediately, the support server won't be able to index maps that have a bad map.yaml file. Those maps won't be listed as available for download. Locally, eventually the map will be invisible to the game itself. I think there is some flagging put into the code right now to use the old map loading system. In short, it will become a problem soon.

After the 2.7 launch, I have high on my list to try and provide a map indexing status page of some sort. I recognize that process is pretty opaque right now.

Update

Screenshot from 2025-12-01 02-56-16.png

You will need to download manually unless using latest prerelease.

Manual instructions https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/36998/global-1940-and-1943-expansion-for-use-with-triplea

@panzerstahl-helm-0 Thanks. I see you have quite a game going on with Alex right now. But whenever you want to start up a Game 3, I am ready. I usually have a bit more time for our hobby during the holidays as I work in an industry that slows down quite a bit at this time with folks taking vacation time.

@rogercooper thank you so much!

@crockett36 scramble orders for 110 and 111?

@rogercooper said in Polygon Grabber Missing:

2.7.15204

It was really helpful knowing a known good version too! This and the screenshot and the terse statement of the problem were kinda perfect 😄

@wc_sumpton
Another rabbit out of the hat!

I thought this was not possible because of multiple capitals for a nation.

Next release will have the above in and links to 2.7.15025
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15025

As this release gives centering focus on active player's capital at the start of their turn.

@panther
Thank you and @LaFayette for looking into and talking care of this.

Happy Thanksgiving to both and your families.

Cheers...