@ghostronin Haha. GG. Well played. VICTORY for AXIS!

@wirkey Haha. Its a thread that will live in infamy!

Wasp(axis) defeats Blasherke(allies +14) huzzah! Vengeance is gained and the score evened at 1-1! The allies launched a bold move into the med early for a push to destroy the axis fleet operating in the red sea. The Italian fighter was able to get a hit and in doing so decrease the odds of an allied success by just enough to hold the position. And while this didn't determine the game...it surely led to a few successive battles in which the allies ended up with the short end of the stick. The axis were able to consolidate gains and lean on the allies for the remainder of the game. Now we battle one more time for the title! May Wasp be victorious!

@Schulz said in Domination 1914 No Man's Land - Official Thread: This tech could increase capacity of transports. In that case, I'd rather keep it simple, and just lower the cost of transports. That should probably be a ww2 tech, thinking about it, to represent the Liberty ships.

You can use TAGX for your own maps. It would be really useful for maps like Large Middle Earth, but setting it up this late in the process would be a pain. But how does TagX work? TagX substitutes @tagname@ with a colon delimited list of things having the tag. Source: <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="axe_raider" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType"> <option name="transportCost" value="1"/> <option name="movement" value="2"/> ... <tag name="foot"/> </attachment> <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="berserker" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType"> <option name="transportCost" value="1"/> <option name="movement" value="2"/> ... <tag name="foot"/> </attachment> <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="boar_rider" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType"> ... <option name="targetsAA" value="@foot@"/> <option name="typeAA" value="charge"/> ... <tag name="mounted"/> </attachment> Result: <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="axe_raider" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType"> <option name="transportCost" value="1"/> <option name="movement" value="2"/> ... <tag name="foot"/> </attachment> <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="berserker" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType"> <option name="transportCost" value="1"/> <option name="movement" value="2"/> ... <tag name="foot"/> </attachment> <attachment name="unitAttachment" attachTo="boar_rider" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitAttachment" type="unitType"> ... <option name="targetsAA" value="axe_raider:berserker"/> <option name="typeAA" value="charge"/> ... <tag name="mounted"/> </attachment> If later you were to add another unit, and tag it <tag name="foot"/>, they will automatically appear as a valid target for charge, without you having to do anything. TagX can also do foreach loops: <attachment foreach="LEADER=@leadership@" name="supportAttachment_$LEADER$_leadership_foot" attachTo="$LEADER$" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.UnitSupportAttachment" type="unitType"> <option name="unitType" value="@foot@"/> <option name="faction" value="allied"/> <option name="side" value="offence:defence"/> <option name="dice" value="strength"/> <option name="bonus" value="1"/> <option name="number" value="1"/> <option name="bonusType" value="leadership"/> <option name="impArtTech" value="false"/> <option name="players" value="@player@"/> </attachment> Tags are substituted first, so @player@ turns into a colon delimited list of players, @leadership@ turns into a colon delimited list of units with the leadership tag. Then the foreach is implemented: the result is a (way too long) list of support attachments, one for each unit with the leadership tag. All instances of $LEADER$ are replaced with the name of the unit to which that particular support attachments belong. Foreach expansions can be nested. The syntax is foreach="VARIABLE1=value1:value2:value3;VARIABLE2=value4:value5;VARIABLE42=value42:value43" etc., if I recall correctly. Another example: <attachment foreach="territory=list:of:territories:you:care:about;player=list:of:players:you:care:about" name="conditionAttachment_$player$_has_battleship_at_$territory$" attachTo="$player$" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player"> <option name="directPresenceTerritories" value="$territory$" count="1"/> <option name="unitPresence" value="battleship" count="1"/> </attachment> So conditionAttachment_bestplayer_has_battleship_at_bestterritory will be true exactly when bestplayer has a battleship at bestterritory.

@Zim-Xero Actually, here I wasn't saying give flat instead of percentage, and, actually, I was suggesting to change nothing but how the info is worded. That is still percentage, just that "Giving RomanRepublic 150% income for 10 PUs" definitely reads like the 150% income is total 10 PUs. Tho probably it would be better reading as: Giving RomanRepublic +50% income for +10 PUs; end with 30 PUs

@schulz no I got it to work. Just took a long time for my computer to have the map blends show up. Just waiting on the PR to get merged

@Frostion I think after the AI fixes I made last time around, you should be able to lower young dragon TUV considerably compared to what its at now. I'd say start with about halving it and see how that plays. It shouldn't need to be too precise just enough value that they don't sacrifice them. I think the sea dragon spawning system is definitely better as you have more control over the location and can specify some what fair locations between good and evil as well as have it spawn with some defenders. Leaving dragon placement to the AI will always be kind of questionable and probably too random given their value. Well I think Mr @Black_Elk probably was a bit overly dragon crazed this past game As when you take poor odds on capturing the dragon then you are not only losing units, you are also usually giving the opponent a better shot at it (this is essentially what happened with the blue dragon). Dragons are very strong, mostly because of the high HP as well as range/flexibility. It allows you to often fight battles and lose no units while then killing multiple enemy units. It is also very strong in sea battles since you don't have many starting ships so it quickly swings naval superiority. Its mostly the white/blue/red dragons that are really strong as the other ones don't really have enough HP to matter as much. I'd say the red dragon is probably worth something around 100 TUV so about 10 standard units. Given that since you only generate/build like 1-3 units/turn early rounds that is a pretty big swing. As the game sits now, its not as much about land grab as its still about naval superiority as there is a lot of water on the map and the sea zones are pretty large. You need to get enough land to have income to build some ships but dragons tend to be pretty key. Also the capital blockade sea zones are really strong and you could argue almost better to just sit and blockade then take the enemy capital.

For sure, its definitely a cool map. The learning curve is a little steep, since its sufficiently different from other maps I've played that I can't really do like a ready substitution from previous experience, but I dig it. Just loaded that last save with the map details off, and its interesting to see the difference. I think I should have also mulled over the notes a bit more, but it was fun diving in. Yeah I think you're right about using the spawns as the basic building blocks. Especially since the other cheap ground units often have one resource that is really expensive driving the cap.

@black-order I'd probably recommend putting the huge map on pause and create a much smaller map either version of avatar or something else. That way you can learn the map making process end to end and many of the gotchas that can be very difficult to change once you get to a certain point in the map making process. That way you can make sure you do the giant Avatar map the right way and not realize half way through that you need a bunch of rework that would be incredibly painful at that huge scale.

Thank You Triplea Couldn't find the previous thank you thread so...been a while and just wanted to say I really appreciate what redrum, Roix, Dan Van Atta, ssloff ( haven't seen you in a while hope all is good ). You guys been kicking ass. Thanks to prastle, panther, cernel, hepps and well... there's a whole bunch of you Thanks for making triplea cool. It makes a few people happy and they then make more people happy Peace Out Rock On TripleA

@wirkey GG. Yeah once both Russia and China have lost all their capitals unless the Allies have crippled either Germany or Japan its pretty much over. Given that this is LL unless the Axis would make a major mistake, I think this game is over after the fall of Moscow. Cool game though. If Russia/China could have held out a few more turns then the Allies could have easily won. Italy being crippled really made this one interesting. The Allies really needed to pressure Germany faster to save Russia. Greece while an interesting idea ended up being very slow to put pressure on Germany.

@blackfox Yes you need "Improved Destroyers" Tech in order for the Destroyers to enable fighter aircraft to target Subs. All air to air combat is limited to Bombing-intercepting- and escorting.

@LaFayette Ideally, both in the download (more important) and the select map (less important) screens would have various tags such as map category (others could be things like number of players, average duration, average complexity, etc). Main purpose would be providing users a better way of searching for maps they would be interested in playing. I think the best example I can think of is something like https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/35052/axis-allies-anniversary-edition. Essentially high level meta data info that could then be used for sorting/filtering maps.

Right on. I'll bang out a turn when I get back later this evening

So all in all we have a thread that started as "AA revised minor bug" and that turned into identifying and describing some major issues affecting all versions (except maybe v6).

Love love love! the new tool tips. Looking smashing!

Congratulations! Well done riverrat! Thanks to all and particularly to Prastle as organizer, Good job friend! Maybe a new tournament soon with more competitors, with limit of time for a game duration and a possibility that everybody game vs all others (as a soccer league, with points to add)…

TripleA Turn Summary: Thailand round 6 TripleA Turn Summary for game: Total World War: December 1941 BETA, version: 2.8.0.3 Game History Round: 6 Training Troops - Manchuria Manchuria collect 0 PUs; end with 10 PUs Consolidating - Thailand Thailand collect 0 PUs; end with 9 PUs Research Technology - Japan Japan spend 0 on tech rolls Japan rolls : 1/1 hits, 0,00 expected hits Japan removing all Technology Tokens after successful research. Japan discover AdvancedSpecialWarfare Combat Move - Japan Trigger japaneseAirtraninfra1: Setting isInfrastructure to false for unitAttachment attached to japaneseAirTransport Trigger japaneseAirtraninfra1: Setting attack to 1 for unitAttachment attached to japaneseAirTransport Trigger japaneseAirtraninfra1: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy cleared for unitAttachment attached to japaneseAirTransport Trigger japaneseTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to japaneseTank Trigger japaneseMecht3: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to japaneseMech.Infantry Trigger japaneseL2: Setting movement to 3 for unitAttachment attached to Truck Trigger japaneseHvyTank1: Setting isLandTransportable to false for unitAttachment attached to japaneseHeavyTank Trigger japaneseL4: Setting movement to 6 for unitAttachment attached to Train Trigger japaneseTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to japaneseTank Trigger japaneseHvyTank2: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to japaneseHeavyTank Trigger japaneseMecht4: Setting isLandTransportable to true for unitAttachment attached to japaneseMech.Infantry 1 japaneseBattleship moved from 128 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 japaneseCruiser moved from 128 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 japaneseCruiser moved from 128 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 japaneseDestroyer and 1 japaneseSubmarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 3 japaneseCarriers and 6 japaneseNavalFighters moved from 128 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 6 japaneseNavalFighters moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 japaneseMarines moved from Luzon to 128 Sea Zone 2 japaneseMarines and 2 japaneseTransports moved from 128 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 japaneseMarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to Brunei 1 japaneseSubmarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 120 Sea Zone 1 japaneseNavalFighter moved from Japan to Iwo Jima 1 japaneseFighter moved from Japan to French Indochina 1 japaneseMech.Infantry moved from Manchuria to Shansi 1 japaneseMech.Infantry moved from Manchuria to Shansi 1 japaneseInfantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuan 1 japaneseMech.Infantry moved from Shanghai to Hunan Japan take Hunan from China 1 japaneseMech.Infantry moved from Shanghai to Hunan 1 japaneseMech.Infantry moved from Anhwei to Hunan 1 japaneseTank moved from Anhwei to Hunan 1 japaneseMech.Infantry moved from Shanghai to Hunan 1 japaneseTank moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 japaneseTank moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 japaneseTank moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 japaneseArtillery moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 1 japaneseStrategicBomber moved from French Indochina to Chungking 1 japaneseStrategicBomber moved from French Indochina to Chungking 1 japaneseFighter moved from French Indochina to Thailand 1 japaneseFighter moved from French Indochina to Thailand 1 japaneseFighter moved from Southern Thailand to Thailand Combat - Japan Usa scrambles 4 units out of Sumatra to defend against the attack in 92 Sea Zone Strategic bombing raid in Chungking AntiAircraftGun fire in Chungking : 0/1 hits, 0,08 expected hits Bombing raid in Chungking rolls: 3,0 and causes: 3 damage to unit: chineseBarracks Bombing raid in Chungking causes 3 damage total. Battle in Brunei Battle in 92 Sea Zone Japan attack with 1 japaneseBattleship, 2 japaneseCruisers and 6 japaneseNavalFighters Usa defend with 1 americanCarrier, 1 americanCruiser, 2 americanDestroyers, 2 americanNavalFighters and 2 americanTransports; Britain defend with 1 britishBattleship-damaged, 2 britishFighters, 2 britishNavalFighters and 2 britishTransports CruiserAntiAircraftGun fire in 92 Sea Zone : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Japan roll dice for 1 japaneseBattleship, 2 japaneseCruisers and 6 japaneseNavalFighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/1 hits, 4,83 expected hits Usa roll dice for 1 americanCarrier, 1 americanCruiser, 2 americanDestroyers, 2 americanNavalFighters, 2 americanTransports, 1 britishBattleship-damaged, 2 britishFighters, 2 britishNavalFighters and 2 britishTransports in 92 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/1 hits, 4,92 expected hits Units damaged: 1 japaneseBattleship owned by the Japan 1 americanDestroyer owned by the Usa, 2 japaneseCruisers owned by the Japan, 2 japaneseNavalFighters owned by the Japan, 2 americanTransports owned by the Usa and 2 britishTransports owned by the Britain lost in 92 Sea Zone 1 japaneseBattleship owned by the Japan lost in 92 Sea Zone 1 japaneseBattleship-damaged owned by the Japan added in 92 Sea Zone CruiserAntiAircraftGun fire in 92 Sea Zone : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Japan roll dice for 1 japaneseBattleship-damaged and 4 japaneseNavalFighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/1 hits, 2,50 expected hits Usa roll dice for 1 americanCarrier, 1 americanCruiser, 1 americanDestroyer, 2 americanNavalFighters, 1 britishBattleship-damaged, 2 britishFighters and 2 britishNavalFighters in 92 Sea Zone, round 3 : 5/1 hits, 4,33 expected hits 1 americanDestroyer owned by the Usa, 1 britishBattleship-damaged owned by the Britain, 4 japaneseNavalFighters owned by the Japan, 1 japaneseBattleship-damaged owned by the Japan and 1 americanCarrier owned by the Usa lost in 92 Sea Zone Usa win, taking Brunei from Britain with 1 americanCruiser, 2 americanNavalFighters, 2 britishFighters and 2 britishNavalFighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -48 Casualties for Japan: 1 japaneseBattleship, 1 japaneseBattleship-damaged, 2 japaneseCruisers and 6 japaneseNavalFighters Casualties for Britain: 1 britishBattleship-damaged and 2 britishTransports Casualties for Usa: 1 americanCarrier, 2 americanDestroyers and 2 americanTransports Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Sumatra Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Sumatra Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Sumatra Moving scrambled unit from 92 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Sumatra 2 americanNavalFighters owned by the Usa forced to land in Sumatra Non Combat Move - Japan Trigger japaneseMecht1: Setting isLandTransport to true for unitAttachment attached to japaneseMech.Infantry Trigger japaneseL5: Setting movement to 2 for unitAttachment attached to Truck Trigger japaneseAirtraninfra2: Setting isInfrastructure to true for unitAttachment attached to japaneseAirTransport Trigger japaneseAirtraninfra2: Setting attack to 0 for unitAttachment attached to japaneseAirTransport Trigger japaneseAirtraninfra2: Setting destroyedWhenCapturedBy to FROM:Japan for unitAttachment attached to japaneseAirTransport Trigger japaneseMecht2: Setting isLandTransport to false for unitAttachment attached to japaneseMech.Infantry Trigger japaneseL3: Setting movement to 5 for unitAttachment attached to Train 1 japaneseStrategicBomber moved from Chungking to Thailand 1 japaneseStrategicBomber moved from Chungking to Thailand Purchase Units - Japan Japan buy 1 japaneseCruiser, 5 japaneseInfantrys, 3 japaneseMech.Infantrys and 1 japaneseNavalFighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; Place Units - Japan 3 japaneseMech.Infantrys placed in Shanghai 2 japaneseInfantrys placed in Shantung 2 japaneseInfantrys placed in Hong Kong 1 japaneseCruiser placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 japaneseNavalFighter placed in Japan 1 japaneseInfantry placed in Kyushu Shikoku Activate Technology - Japan Japan activating AdvancedSpecialWarfare Trigger japaneseASW7: Setting canInvadeOnlyFrom to all for unitAttachment attached to japaneseArtillery Trigger japaneseASW7: Setting canInvadeOnlyFrom to all for unitAttachment attached to japaneseHeavyArtillery Trigger japaneseASW7: Setting canInvadeOnlyFrom to all for unitAttachment attached to japaneseMech.Infantry Trigger japaneseASW7: Setting canInvadeOnlyFrom to all for unitAttachment attached to japaneseTank Trigger japaneseASW7: Setting canInvadeOnlyFrom to all for unitAttachment attached to japaneseMobileArtillery Trigger japaneseASW7: Setting canInvadeOnlyFrom to all for unitAttachment attached to japaneseAntiTankGun Trigger japaneseASW1: Japan is added to UnitSupportAttachment attached to:UnitType{name=japaneseAirTransport} with name:supportAttachmentAirtranjapanese2 Turn Complete - Japan Japan collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Units generate 3 techTokens; Japan end with 3 techTokens Some Units in Manchuria change ownership: 1 japaneseCombatEngineer Purchase Units - Manchuria Manchuria buy 1 japaneseArtillery and 2 japaneseInfantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Place Units - Manchuria 1 japaneseArtillery and 2 japaneseInfantrys placed in Manchuria Turn Complete - Manchuria Manchuria collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in Manchuria change ownership: 1 japaneseArtillery, 1 japaneseCombatEngineer and 2 japaneseInfantrys Purchase Units - Thailand Thailand buy 3 japaneseInfantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Place Units - Thailand 3 japaneseInfantrys placed in Thailand Turn Complete - Thailand Thailand collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs Some Units in Thailand change ownership: 3 japaneseInfantrys Combat Hit Differential Summary : Usa : 0,75 Japan rolls : : 1,00 CruiserAntiAircraftGun fire in 92 Sea Zone : : -0,33 AntiAircraftGun fire in Chungking : : -0,08 Japan : 0,67 Savegame