@mirkobruner @Frostion both of these are under the umbrella of rebranding which needs further discussion if any further action would be taken in this direction current consensus here is to replace the current start screen logo with the previous thing (current logo/icon)and discuss any branding changes for future releases.

@alkexr I was trying to make upkeep as visible source in the purchase screen in my map like that but couldn't find a way because its not a resource. I am using <option name="createsResourcesList" value="-x:PUs"/> tag to represent upkeep.

Wondering is turning into supply like this system the onyl way to make is visible?

@ghostronin Haha. GG. Well played. VICTORY for AXIS!

I still think that US's economy isn't reflected well in the version of Steampunk fmc (camerons version). While it does have a good balance of production now, it still needs more regions with IPCS (honestly kind of surprised how every non-city territory is only at most 2 or 3 when in places like Ohio, it should be 4+ ...)

I am a little bit confused. Can we use movementCostModifier right now? It defined as Territory Effect in Pact of Steel 2.

@wirkey Haha. Its a thread that will live in infamy!

@wylie1070
Sounds good.

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 15 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese repair damage of 4x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 69 PUs; 4 SuicideAttackTokens; Japanese buy 11 armour; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 4 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from French 1 armour moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei 1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Hopei 2 armour moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific Japanese take Eastern Persia from British 5 armour moved from India to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Burma to 41 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to 41 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 6 carriers, 6 fighters and 3 transports moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to South West Africa Japanese take South West Africa from British 1 armour moved from South West Africa to Rhodesia 1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Hopei Combat - Japanese Battle in Rhodesia Japanese attack with 3 armour British defend with 1 armour Japanese roll dice for 3 armour in Rhodesia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Rhodesia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Rhodesia Japanese win, taking Rhodesia from British with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour Casualties for British: 1 armour Battle in Hopei Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 9 armour British defend with 1 infantry; Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese roll dice for 9 armour in Yunnan, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Japanese, 4 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 7 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in 41 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to India Place Units - Japanese 3 armour placed in Kiangsu 3 armour placed in Kwangtung 3 armour placed in India 2 armour placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,6,6,6,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,5,6,5,5,6,3,2,5,2,1,3,6,4,3,2,5,2,1,3,3,3,2,5 Japanese collect 35 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 38 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : 0.50 ANZAC : -0.67 Chinese : -0.67 Japanese : -1.83

Savegame

@Zim-Xero Actually, here I wasn't saying give flat instead of percentage, and, actually, I was suggesting to change nothing but how the info is worded. That is still percentage, just that "Giving RomanRepublic 150% income for 10 PUs" definitely reads like the 150% income is total 10 PUs.
Tho probably it would be better reading as:

Giving RomanRepublic +50% income for +10 PUs; end with 30 PUs

@schulz no I got it to work. Just took a long time for my computer to have the map blends show up. Just waiting on the PR to get merged

@rainova There's an option that controls that functionality. I think most games have the option off by default and most don't allow editing the option. But I know a few do. The option is "Choose AA Casualties". You can look at the map xml and see if it is value="true" or editable="true".

If you are in edit mode, it should also show the dialog.

@prastle if u have time we should discuss the ladder site it's basically done

@Numetalfan Sweet !

@Frostion I think after the AI fixes I made last time around, you should be able to lower young dragon TUV considerably compared to what its at now. I'd say start with about halving it and see how that plays. It shouldn't need to be too precise just enough value that they don't sacrifice them.

I think the sea dragon spawning system is definitely better as you have more control over the location and can specify some what fair locations between good and evil as well as have it spawn with some defenders. Leaving dragon placement to the AI will always be kind of questionable and probably too random given their value.

Well I think Mr @Black_Elk probably was a bit overly dragon crazed this past game 🙂 As when you take poor odds on capturing the dragon then you are not only losing units, you are also usually giving the opponent a better shot at it (this is essentially what happened with the blue dragon).

Dragons are very strong, mostly because of the high HP as well as range/flexibility. It allows you to often fight battles and lose no units while then killing multiple enemy units. It is also very strong in sea battles since you don't have many starting ships so it quickly swings naval superiority. Its mostly the white/blue/red dragons that are really strong as the other ones don't really have enough HP to matter as much. I'd say the red dragon is probably worth something around 100 TUV so about 10 standard units. Given that since you only generate/build like 1-3 units/turn early rounds that is a pretty big swing.

As the game sits now, its not as much about land grab as its still about naval superiority as there is a lot of water on the map and the sea zones are pretty large. You need to get enough land to have income to build some ships but dragons tend to be pretty key. Also the capital blockade sea zones are really strong and you could argue almost better to just sit and blockade then take the enemy capital.

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 14 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 bomber and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland 3 bombers moved from Philippines to 6 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from New Guinea to Philippines Combat - ANZAC Battle in 6 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 3 bombers Japanese defend with 1 carrier and 1 transport ANZAC roll dice for 3 bombers in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 transport in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Japanese and 1 carrier owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone ANZAC win with 3 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier and 1 transport Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East Place Units - ANZAC 1 bomber placed in New South Wales 1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs Purchase Units - French French buy 3 armour; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - French 1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Poland French take Poland from Germans 3 armour moved from France to Greater Southern Germany 1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy Combat - French Non Combat Move - French Place Units - French 3 armour placed in France Turn Complete - French Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 82 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3 French collect 21 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : 1.00 Japanese : -0.33

Savegame

@waxfingers said in Unit Option When Damaged Change Into Different Unit (Weakened Battleships):

Hi @rogercooper

OK I will check that out. I am not sure if it does exactly what I am proposing though. Would removing IPCs mean a single bombing run takes away so much IPCs for that turn only? Or does the damage and consequence persist if not repaired?

My idea is more of a continuous drain if not dealt with and repaired. Also, I wanted the major territories to be a little bit resistant to it (would need like 3+ planes or separate bombing runs to do enough damage to have an effect). That is why the math was territory value less bombing value is the amount of IPCs lost. So if territory is 5 and bombing was only 3 then nothing happens to IPCs.

It would not be persistent. If you want persistent damage, just make damage to factory capacity unrepairable.

For sure, its definitely a cool map. The learning curve is a little steep, since its sufficiently different from other maps I've played that I can't really do like a ready substitution from previous experience, but I dig it. Just loaded that last save with the map details off, and its interesting to see the difference. I think I should have also mulled over the notes a bit more, but it was fun diving in.

Yeah I think you're right about using the spawns as the basic building blocks. Especially since the other cheap ground units often have one resource that is really expensive driving the cap.

@black-order I'd probably recommend putting the huge map on pause and create a much smaller map either version of avatar or something else. That way you can learn the map making process end to end and many of the gotchas that can be very difficult to change once you get to a certain point in the map making process. That way you can make sure you do the giant Avatar map the right way and not realize half way through that you need a bunch of rework that would be incredibly painful at that huge scale.

@wirkey GG. Yeah once both Russia and China have lost all their capitals unless the Allies have crippled either Germany or Japan its pretty much over. Given that this is LL unless the Axis would make a major mistake, I think this game is over after the fall of Moscow.

Cool game though. If Russia/China could have held out a few more turns then the Allies could have easily won. Italy being crippled really made this one interesting. The Allies really needed to pressure Germany faster to save Russia. Greece while an interesting idea ended up being very slow to put pressure on Germany.

@hungry-coyote you mean you can play offline or you can join an existing bot and play, you just cant be the host of a bot?