So if folks have potential recommended changes for isSuicide, it would probably be better to start a new thread given that this thread is about isSuicideOnHit and has already been implemented.

@hepps How about being also able to make them re-emerge, the same way, on any following combat rounds?

@alkexr Was watching some people on the lobby play this... noticed a pretty significant issue in terms of playability. Since there a zero flags for any nations... it makes it kinda difficult to try to figure out who is playing what. Might want to put adding flags (at the very least small) on the list of things to do.

Testing Forum poster Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.9, time: 9:21:54 PM Savegame

@frostion I see what you are getting at though I'm fairly hesitant to create a bunch of properties that allow lots of different behaviors for suicide units and even if we did want more flexibility then I start to think different unit properties might be better than global properties so you could have different functionality for say kamikaze planes vs ammo units on the same map. Here are a few additional things you probably need to consider in the 'strike one at a time' situation: How does it work with LL? How is order of suicide units rolls determined if there are different types of suicide units (attacking with say kamikaze and ammo units in the same battle)? Weakest rolls first? Strongest rolls first? Tie breaker? Essentially, you need a sense of ordering of the suicide units. Need to consider 'isSuicide' vs 'isSuicideOnHit' and whether they both would use the property as well as ordering. As you can probably see from these questions, this gets a bit complex fairly quickly which is probably the primary reason it works as it does currently.

@redrum thank you

@VanBattlesick You wanted to try option 2

@helsinkiharbour Thanks

@Frostion said in Can someone make a video in which you create a map in github?: @Cernel I must say that I dont know 100% what this feature is and what it is for, but if I don't use that overwrite thing, then the files do not seem to upload and replace the old uploaded stuff. Instead an error just occurs and no upload happens. I didn't use that setting for the latest world_at_war update and all seemed to work fine. Anyone knows better?

@general_zod Good recommendation. I've seen in for example online go timers that add a fixed amount per turn. The idea being there is that you can extend a long running game and not be forced to end the game in say round 3 or 4 because both players are low on time.

@redrum said in Units Can Load In Hostile Sea Zones: @Hepps This would actually probably be a good property for TWW as I've actually run into exactly this case in the Pacific in my game vs Wirkey which makes it so I have to keep all my troops loaded on transports which just feels wrong: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/533/tww-2-7-7-2-lalapalooza-redrum-allies-vs-wirkey-axis I actually think it is not that wrong to be wanting to keep stuff loaded, but for a different reason. Really, loading/unloading takes some time, so you would not want to unload on random islands, and then reload, for no good reason, but this should be rather related to the ships using like 1 movement point for loading and/or unloading anything, on the turn. So, for example, a ship can move 3 but if it loads/unloads anything in 1 sea zone can move 2 and if it loads/unloads anything in 2 sea zones can move 1. Probably, for easy of play, it would be advisable to charge the movement cost only on unloading, not on loading, especially since TA doesn't display loaded stuff well (what is loaded where). Of course, this is off topic. Final note, the original Axis&Allies 1981 (the first edition) actually had the loading cost dynamic, in that loading ships would have used 1 movement point for that. http://axisandallies.wikia.com/wiki/Axis_%26_Allies_(Nova_Games_Edition) I'm not opening a feature request, as I don't actually have a user case and I think there are more important feature requests around (or I could easily open hundreds of them more), but wanted to point out that the fact that normally in TA you almost never want to keep stuff on board is not necessarily that normal.

@Frostion Sorry, "alpha" was changed to "saturation" due to a limitation. So you'll want this: smallMap.territory.saturation=0.1

@redrum I have the bug @wirkey is describing if I load his savegame with 1.9.0.0.10498. I don't have it if I load it with 1.9.0.0.9687. I don't seem to be able to reproduce the issue starting a new game (with the map currently downloadable (the one still having "costPU"; not the new version I'm still waiting to have it merged), that I assume is the same one as the @wirkey savegame), with 1.9.0.0.10498 or 1.9.0.0.9687, playing it without reloading.

Great tips @Hepps & @Frostion! Since the maximum amount of units I could ever have in each territory is limited to 8 (Infantry, Hepp's Highlander, Artillery, Tank, Factory, AA, Fighter, Bomber) that would mean I should consider each territory to have room for 8 x 54 pixels each. I think that's workable. Like I said the other day I am still working redrawing and scaling the map properly. But perhaps I should be drawing the 3 conflict zones first (Ontario, Quebec & the Maritimes). Again, thanks for the help. I will get back to you guys when I've made some progress.

Personally I think hijacking an active project without permission is deplorable (whether credit is given or not, although not giving any credit would be even worse) . It is the kind of behavior that can make a map maker not want to be part of this community.

@redrum Loading this savegame (in which France is Allied with every players but Neutral): BugReportCernel_Napoleonic Empires FFA 8 Player_1.10_20190118_01.tsvg Trying to open the Battle Calculator, I get this error: gen 18, 2019 1:12:12 AM org.triplea.game.client.HeadedGameRunner lambda$main$0 GRAVE: No enemies or non-allies for :PlayerId named:France java.lang.IllegalStateException: No enemies or non-allies for :PlayerId named:France at games.strategy.triplea.odds.calculator.OddsCalculatorPanel.getEnemy(OddsCalculatorPanel.java:655) at games.strategy.triplea.odds.calculator.OddsCalculatorPanel.lambda$new$0(OddsCalculatorPanel.java:348) at javax.swing.JComboBox.fireActionEvent(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JComboBox.setSelectedItem(Unknown Source) at games.strategy.triplea.odds.calculator.OddsCalculatorPanel.<init>(OddsCalculatorPanel.java:449) at games.strategy.triplea.odds.calculator.OddsCalculatorDialog.<init>(OddsCalculatorDialog.java:67) at games.strategy.triplea.odds.calculator.OddsCalculatorDialog.show(OddsCalculatorDialog.java:35) at games.strategy.triplea.ui.menubar.GameMenu.lambda$new$1(GameMenu.java:75) at games.strategy.ui.SwingAction$1.actionPerformed(SwingAction.java:65) at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(Unknown Source) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source) gen 18, 2019 1:12:35 AM org.triplea.game.client.HeadedGameRunner lambda$main$0 GRAVE: null java.lang.NullPointerException at games.strategy.triplea.odds.calculator.OddsCalculatorDialog.dispose(OddsCalculatorDialog.java:77) at java.awt.Window.disposeImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window$1DisposeAction.run(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window.doDispose(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window.dispose(Unknown Source) at games.strategy.triplea.ui.TripleAFrame.stopGame(TripleAFrame.java:591) at games.strategy.triplea.ui.display.TripleADisplay.shutDown(TripleADisplay.java:102) at games.strategy.triplea.TripleA.shutDown(TripleA.java:81) at games.strategy.engine.framework.ServerGame.stopGame(ServerGame.java:351) at games.strategy.triplea.ui.TripleAFrame.leaveGame(TripleAFrame.java:635) at games.strategy.triplea.ui.TripleAFrame$1.windowClosing(TripleAFrame.java:259) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.windowClosing(Unknown Source) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.windowClosing(Unknown Source) at java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.windowClosing(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window.processWindowEvent(Unknown Source) at javax.swing.JFrame.processWindowEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window.processEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source) at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source) I wan to, again, point out that this problem appears to verify when a player is Allied with every other player except the null (Neutral) player. At least France should have been able to battlecalculate against Neutral. However, this is just an edge problem of a more general and more important problem: the program doesn't allow you to battlecalculate against your allies, that is a major issue for games in which you can go from Allied to War relationships (if everyone has the same units, there is the workaround of calculating against some other player you are currently not Allied with, if any).

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 10 TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War, version: 2.1.1 Game History Round: 10 Combat Move - French 2 Fighters moved from 41 Sea Zone to Leon 2 Infantrys moved from Andalusia to Leon 1 Tank moved from E.Morocco to N.Algeria French take N.Algeria from Italians 1 Tank moved from N.Algeria to E.Morocco 2 Elites moved from E.Morocco to 41 Sea Zone 2 Elites moved from 41 Sea Zone to Andalusia 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Adana to Ankara 1 Infantry moved from New Valley to Kufra 2 Infantrys moved from Greenland to 2 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys and 1 Transport moved from 2 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 3 Sea Zone to Iceland Purchase Units - French French buy 2 Adv.Fighters, 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - French Battle in Leon French attack with 2 Fighters and 2 Infantrys Italians defend with 1 Infantry French roll dice for 2 Fighters and 2 Infantrys in Leon, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Leon, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Italians lost in Leon French win, taking Leon from Italians with 2 Fighters and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Italians: 1 Infantry Battle in Iceland French attack with 2 Infantrys Germans defend with 1 Infantry French roll dice for 2 Infantrys in Iceland, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 Infantry in Iceland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the French lost in Iceland French roll dice for 1 Infantry in Iceland, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 Infantry in Iceland, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the French lost in Iceland Germans win with 1 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for French: 2 Infantrys Non Combat Move - French 2 Fighters moved from Leon to 41 Sea Zone Place Units - French 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry placed in E.Morocco 1 Bunker placed in Kufra 2 Adv.Fighters placed in Syria Turn Complete - French French collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs Combat Hit Differential Summary : Germans : 1,33 Italians : -0,33 French : -0,50 Savegame

@cernel I'd rather move towards being consistent with how the bottom bar displays it with the +/- right next to the amount in parenthesis. So other areas in the UI could probably use bold text as well but gotta start somewhere.

@mahks Simplest solution is to just add (first strike units) next to each aagun reference. Not perfect but will be consistent.

Depends on how you value territories. Strategic/geographical and morale boosting to a countries people can(usually is) be a determination of value also. Obviously, from a raw material stand point, midway islands are not worth anything. From a strategic point, quite a bit. Just depends on how you want to do it. "World in Flames" is supposed to be the best WWII game for realism. Sadly, I've never played it and last I checked, no longer an online option.