@redrum backwoods of British Columbia

@ssoloff It has been renewed for another year.

@cernel Ah, ok, couldn't have guessed that from your initial question that I read as rules question. Searching for sort of analogies in the rules we have the "Sea Units starting in hostile seazones" rules, that allow to move from a hostile seazone, simply to escape combat or to initiate combat elsewhere. So concerning land units I would tend to let the player decide to let them either stay and engage the enemy troops or to move to an adjacent territory during combat move phase. In case the territory has become hostile due to the player's proximate action, I would allow two steps. (Analogy: Load transport in hostile seazone exception, when the seazone has just become hostile due to proximate DOW by the transport's owning power). In case the territory has become hostile at some time between the power's turns, I would only allow one step in analogy to the 1914 rules. Just some ideas of course.

So if folks have potential recommended changes for isSuicide, it would probably be better to start a new thread given that this thread is about isSuicideOnHit and has already been implemented.

@hepps How about being also able to make them re-emerge, the same way, on any following combat rounds?

Would be nice if the Calc button was bigger or more centered/obvious somehow. I keep wanting to hit close for some reason to activate it : ) Sorry haven't checked out the new model yet. I'll give it a shot soon. Good work as always : )

TripleA Move Summary: Humans round 1 TripleA Move Summary for game: World of War Heroes, version: 0.0.1 Game History Round: 1 Combat Move - Humans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing PUs for Humans from 0 to 100 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 Arthur moved from Stormwind to Stormwind Mountains Humans take Stormwind Mountains from Nature Purchase Units - Humans Humans buy 1 Crossbowmen and 1 Footmen; Remaining resources: 82 PUs; Savegame

@alkexr Was watching some people on the lobby play this... noticed a pretty significant issue in terms of playability. Since there a zero flags for any nations... it makes it kinda difficult to try to figure out who is playing what. Might want to put adding flags (at the very least small) on the list of things to do.

@VanBattlesick You wanted to try option 2

Hmm. I've received nothing, including no rolls from you. Edit! ah its considering it spam now! Just so we don't forget for future list: edit: Similar bug near MIssissippi Lowe 5 as at the Fort earlier mentioned, cannot move from the water 2 steps north, instead it takes a 3 step long path. Probably not fixable.

Testing Forum poster Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.9, time: 9:21:54 PM Savegame

@frostion I see what you are getting at though I'm fairly hesitant to create a bunch of properties that allow lots of different behaviors for suicide units and even if we did want more flexibility then I start to think different unit properties might be better than global properties so you could have different functionality for say kamikaze planes vs ammo units on the same map. Here are a few additional things you probably need to consider in the 'strike one at a time' situation: How does it work with LL? How is order of suicide units rolls determined if there are different types of suicide units (attacking with say kamikaze and ammo units in the same battle)? Weakest rolls first? Strongest rolls first? Tie breaker? Essentially, you need a sense of ordering of the suicide units. Need to consider 'isSuicide' vs 'isSuicideOnHit' and whether they both would use the property as well as ordering. As you can probably see from these questions, this gets a bit complex fairly quickly which is probably the primary reason it works as it does currently.

@redrum thank you

@helsinkiharbour Thanks

@Frostion said in Can someone make a video in which you create a map in github?: @Cernel I must say that I dont know 100% what this feature is and what it is for, but if I don't use that overwrite thing, then the files do not seem to upload and replace the old uploaded stuff. Instead an error just occurs and no upload happens. I didn't use that setting for the latest world_at_war update and all seemed to work fine. Anyone knows better?

@general_zod Good recommendation. I've seen in for example online go timers that add a fixed amount per turn. The idea being there is that you can extend a long running game and not be forced to end the game in say round 3 or 4 because both players are low on time.

@redrum said in Units Can Load In Hostile Sea Zones: @Hepps This would actually probably be a good property for TWW as I've actually run into exactly this case in the Pacific in my game vs Wirkey which makes it so I have to keep all my troops loaded on transports which just feels wrong: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/533/tww-2-7-7-2-lalapalooza-redrum-allies-vs-wirkey-axis I actually think it is not that wrong to be wanting to keep stuff loaded, but for a different reason. Really, loading/unloading takes some time, so you would not want to unload on random islands, and then reload, for no good reason, but this should be rather related to the ships using like 1 movement point for loading and/or unloading anything, on the turn. So, for example, a ship can move 3 but if it loads/unloads anything in 1 sea zone can move 2 and if it loads/unloads anything in 2 sea zones can move 1. Probably, for easy of play, it would be advisable to charge the movement cost only on unloading, not on loading, especially since TA doesn't display loaded stuff well (what is loaded where). Of course, this is off topic. Final note, the original Axis&Allies 1981 (the first edition) actually had the loading cost dynamic, in that loading ships would have used 1 movement point for that. http://axisandallies.wikia.com/wiki/Axis_%26_Allies_(Nova_Games_Edition) I'm not opening a feature request, as I don't actually have a user case and I think there are more important feature requests around (or I could easily open hundreds of them more), but wanted to point out that the fact that normally in TA you almost never want to keep stuff on board is not necessarily that normal.

@Frostion Sorry, "alpha" was changed to "saturation" due to a limitation. So you'll want this: smallMap.territory.saturation=0.1

@redrum I have the bug @wirkey is describing if I load his savegame with 1.9.0.0.10498. I don't have it if I load it with 1.9.0.0.9687. I don't seem to be able to reproduce the issue starting a new game (with the map currently downloadable (the one still having "costPU"; not the new version I'm still waiting to have it merged), that I assume is the same one as the @wirkey savegame), with 1.9.0.0.10498 or 1.9.0.0.9687, playing it without reloading.

I have added total mobilized: Country Manpower on Entry into War End of War Peak Number Total Mobilized Albania 13,000 13,000 13,000 Australia 91,700 575,100 575,100 993,000 Belgium 600,000 650,000 650,000 900,000 Bulgaria 160,000 450,000 450,000 1,011,000 Canada 63,100 759,800 759,800 1,100,000 China 2,500,000 5,000,000 5,700,000 14,000,000 Denmark 6,600 6,600 6,600 Finland 127,800 270,000 270,000 270,000 France 900,000 437,000 2,680,000 2,680,000 Germany 3,180,000 7,800,000 9,500,000 17,900,000 Greece 430,000 540,000 540,000 Hungary 80,000 210,000 210,000 210,000 India 197,000 2,159,700 2,159,700 2,581,800 Italy 1,899,600 259,100 2,563,000 2,563,000 Japan 1,700,000 7,200,000 7,200,000 9,100,000 Netherlands 270,000 400,000 400,000 400,000 New Zealand 13,800 192,800 192,800 192,800 Norway 25,000 25,000 90,000 Poland 1,200,000 250,000 250,000 2,400,000 Rumania 686,000 370,000 1,225,000 1,225,000 South Africa 19,000 198,000 250,000 UK 681,000 4,683,000 4,683,000 5,896,000 USA 5,413,000 11,877,000 11,877,000 16,354,000 USSR 9,000,000 12,400,000 13,200,000 13,200,000 Yugoslavia 150,000 800,000 800,000 1,500,000