@ghostronin Haha. GG. Well played. VICTORY for AXIS!

I am a little bit confused. Can we use movementCostModifier right now? It defined as Territory Effect in Pact of Steel 2.

@wirkey Haha. Its a thread that will live in infamy!

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 12 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Germany 2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 1 armour moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany 3 fighters moved from Albania to Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Albania to Germany 1 fighter moved from Russia to Slovakia Hungary 2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Tsinghai 2 fighters moved from Volgograd to Tsinghai 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang 1 fighter moved from Volgograd to Sikang 1 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk 1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Timguska Russians take Timguska from Japanese 2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Novosibirsk Combat - Russians Battle in Tsinghai Russians attack with 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys Japanese defend with 2 armour Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys in Tsinghai, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 armour in Tsinghai, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tsinghai 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Tsinghai Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Tsinghai, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Tsinghai, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tsinghai 1 armour owned by the Japanese lost in Tsinghai Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour Battle in Germany Russians attack with 2 armour, 5 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Italians defend with 1 fighter Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Germany Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 4 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Germany, round 2 : 4/1 hits, 4.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Germany, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2.33 expected hits 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Germany 2 aaGuns owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Germany, round 3 : 4/1 hits, 3.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Germany, round 3 : 2/1 hits, 1.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Germany 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in Germany Russians captures 31PUs while taking Germans capital Russians converts factory_major into different units Russians win, taking Germany from Germans with 1 armour, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys Casualties for Germans: 2 aaGuns, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter Battle in Slovakia Hungary Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys Germans defend with 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Slovakia Hungary, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Slovakia Hungary 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 armour in Slovakia Hungary, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Slovakia Hungary Russians win, taking Slovakia Hungary from Germans with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys Battle in Sikang Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 bomber Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in Sikang, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Sikang, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in Sikang, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Sikang, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in Sikang, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry in Sikang, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber in Sikang, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in Sikang Russians win, taking Sikang from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Sikang to Volgograd 2 fighters moved from Tsinghai to Volgograd 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Volgograd 2 aaGuns moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Poland 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to Poland 2 fighters moved from Germany to Poland 2 fighters moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland Place Units - Russians 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd 3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod 1 fighter and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 44 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Russians 3 Berlin: Russians met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 86 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 101 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.17 Germans AA : 0.00 Germans regular : -0.67 Russians regular : -1.67

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@redanto triplea_4103_14ita (2).tsvg

@wylie1070
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 15 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese repair damage of 4x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 69 PUs; 4 SuicideAttackTokens; Japanese buy 11 armour; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 4 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 armour moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from French 1 armour moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei 1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Hopei 2 armour moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific Japanese take Eastern Persia from British 5 armour moved from India to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Burma to 41 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to 41 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 6 carriers, 6 fighters and 3 transports moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to South West Africa Japanese take South West Africa from British 1 armour moved from South West Africa to Rhodesia 1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Hopei Combat - Japanese Battle in Rhodesia Japanese attack with 3 armour British defend with 1 armour Japanese roll dice for 3 armour in Rhodesia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Rhodesia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Japanese and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Rhodesia Japanese win, taking Rhodesia from British with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour Casualties for British: 1 armour Battle in Hopei Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 9 armour British defend with 1 infantry; Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese roll dice for 9 armour in Yunnan, round 2 : 6/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 5 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 2 armour owned by the Japanese, 4 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 7 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in 41 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 41 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to India Place Units - Japanese 3 armour placed in Kiangsu 3 armour placed in Kwangtung 3 armour placed in India 2 armour placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,6,6,6,1,2,2,1,1,2,1,1,5,6,5,5,6,3,2,5,2,1,3,6,4,3,2,5,2,1,3,3,3,2,5 Japanese collect 35 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 38 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

British : 0.50 ANZAC : -0.67 Chinese : -0.67 Japanese : -1.83

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@Nothingtoseehere fyi

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 9 Combat Move - British 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Union of South Africa Combat - British Battle in Union of South Africa British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Union of South Africa, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Union of South Africa, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Union of South Africa 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Union of South Africa British roll dice for 1 artillery in Union of South Africa, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour in Union of South Africa, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Union of South Africa Japanese win with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.67 British regular : 0.00

Savegame

@Zim-Xero Actually, here I wasn't saying give flat instead of percentage, and, actually, I was suggesting to change nothing but how the info is worded. That is still percentage, just that "Giving RomanRepublic 150% income for 10 PUs" definitely reads like the 150% income is total 10 PUs.
Tho probably it would be better reading as:

Giving RomanRepublic +50% income for +10 PUs; end with 30 PUs

@schulz no I got it to work. Just took a long time for my computer to have the map blends show up. Just waiting on the PR to get merged

@rainova There's an option that controls that functionality. I think most games have the option off by default and most don't allow editing the option. But I know a few do. The option is "Choose AA Casualties". You can look at the map xml and see if it is value="true" or editable="true".

If you are in edit mode, it should also show the dialog.

@trout Here is a game thread I created https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/4088/1-trout-mussolini-pizza-emperor-axis-vs-victoryfirst-allies-g40-house-rules-expansion-by-the-captain

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 4.0

Game History

Round: 14 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 bomber and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 artillery moved from New South Wales to Queensland 3 bombers moved from Philippines to 6 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from New Guinea to Philippines Combat - ANZAC Battle in 6 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 3 bombers Japanese defend with 1 carrier and 1 transport ANZAC roll dice for 3 bombers in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 2.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 transport in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Japanese and 1 carrier owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone ANZAC win with 3 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier and 1 transport Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East Place Units - ANZAC 1 bomber placed in New South Wales 1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs Purchase Units - French French buy 3 armour; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - French 1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Poland French take Poland from Germans 3 armour moved from France to Greater Southern Germany 1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy Combat - French Non Combat Move - French Place Units - French 3 armour placed in France Turn Complete - French Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 82 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3 French collect 21 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 22 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC : 1.00 Japanese : -0.33

Savegame

@Frostion I think after the AI fixes I made last time around, you should be able to lower young dragon TUV considerably compared to what its at now. I'd say start with about halving it and see how that plays. It shouldn't need to be too precise just enough value that they don't sacrifice them.

I think the sea dragon spawning system is definitely better as you have more control over the location and can specify some what fair locations between good and evil as well as have it spawn with some defenders. Leaving dragon placement to the AI will always be kind of questionable and probably too random given their value.

Well I think Mr @Black_Elk probably was a bit overly dragon crazed this past game 🙂 As when you take poor odds on capturing the dragon then you are not only losing units, you are also usually giving the opponent a better shot at it (this is essentially what happened with the blue dragon).

Dragons are very strong, mostly because of the high HP as well as range/flexibility. It allows you to often fight battles and lose no units while then killing multiple enemy units. It is also very strong in sea battles since you don't have many starting ships so it quickly swings naval superiority. Its mostly the white/blue/red dragons that are really strong as the other ones don't really have enough HP to matter as much. I'd say the red dragon is probably worth something around 100 TUV so about 10 standard units. Given that since you only generate/build like 1-3 units/turn early rounds that is a pretty big swing.

As the game sits now, its not as much about land grab as its still about naval superiority as there is a lot of water on the map and the sea zones are pretty large. You need to get enough land to have income to build some ships but dragons tend to be pretty key. Also the capital blockade sea zones are really strong and you could argue almost better to just sit and blockade then take the enemy capital.

@Numetalfan Sweet !

@prastle if u have time we should discuss the ladder site it's basically done

For sure, its definitely a cool map. The learning curve is a little steep, since its sufficiently different from other maps I've played that I can't really do like a ready substitution from previous experience, but I dig it. Just loaded that last save with the map details off, and its interesting to see the difference. I think I should have also mulled over the notes a bit more, but it was fun diving in.

Yeah I think you're right about using the spawns as the basic building blocks. Especially since the other cheap ground units often have one resource that is really expensive driving the cap.

@waxfingers said in Unit Option When Damaged Change Into Different Unit (Weakened Battleships):

Hi @rogercooper

OK I will check that out. I am not sure if it does exactly what I am proposing though. Would removing IPCs mean a single bombing run takes away so much IPCs for that turn only? Or does the damage and consequence persist if not repaired?

My idea is more of a continuous drain if not dealt with and repaired. Also, I wanted the major territories to be a little bit resistant to it (would need like 3+ planes or separate bombing runs to do enough damage to have an effect). That is why the math was territory value less bombing value is the amount of IPCs lost. So if territory is 5 and bombing was only 3 then nothing happens to IPCs.

It would not be persistent. If you want persistent damage, just make damage to factory capacity unrepairable.